<p>Title says it all. </p>
<p>What do you think?
Is it possible for unnatural geniuses to still get into Ivy league schools?</p>
<p>^yes. 10char.</p>
<p>For people who aren’t geniuses, yes. For people who aren’t still smart (say anything above .5 standard deviations above the population as a whole, being about 108 IQ), probably not.</p>
<p>Not naturally smart people who get into Princeton and MIT: athletes.</p>
<p>In general yes, although recruited athletes and top-notch musicians less so. In addition if you are not “naturally smart” and you find yourself at an instiution with mostly “naturally smart” people you will have to work like a feind to keep up.</p>
<p>Some are. You can work you *** off and yet get into those schools; you don’t have to be naturally smart.</p>
<p>Isn’t there a thread already like this? -.-</p>
<p>Not really. i have a great friend who got accepted into Princeton. She’s not a person you would classify as “naturally smart”. Ofc, she worked pretty hard (but not her butt off). If you really want to go to those places, just start targeting the things those colleges like. Especially MIT. Take engineering classes, email the admissions, do science tournies, etc. Ofc, if you don’t like those activities, you really shouldn’t go to those colleges…</p>
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<p>Probably just Princeton.</p>
<p>i don’t think anybody is born naturally smart. Intelligence can be defined in so many ways. A smart person seems to be someone who is diligent and strives to learn and cultivate knowledge.</p>
<p>You can either have above average intelligence (like 1800~ SAT) and work really hard and be world class in something else, or be naturally smart</p>
<p>1800 SAT is above average; just not to CC standards.</p>
<p>People can not study and get into ivy league schools. My aunt got accepted into Princeton and Columbia without ever studying, but she says that if she needed to study in order to get good grades that she would have- her IQ is a 175, but most people aren’t like her. I also have cousins (3 sisters) who had to work their asses off to get into Yale. I think people can be naturally smart and get into an ivy league school, but they have to care enough to actually get in.</p>
<p>^ I would agree. But some people are definitely born naturally smart.</p>
<p>I got into MIT and I’m not all that smart.</p>
<p>I have a friend who wasn’t that smart (he thought ham was chicken up to about his junior year, but maybe that’s just him being oblivious). Fact is, his GPA (3.3,4 something close to that) and SAT score (20-- something, if I remember right) wasn’t that great. </p>
<p>However, what set him apart was the he was a leader and a visionary. He founded his own nonprofit in freshman year, and it became very successful on a worldwide scale. He was very charismatic and likeable (which shows through in your essay and interview) though not necessarily smart (which doesn’t show through that much in essays/interviews. People really don’t go into detail about the finer aspects of multi variable calculus or Dante in these things). He was accepted to Yale and Stanford.</p>
<p>Conversely, I have seen quite a few VERY intelligent people (4.0s, 2300+, stereotypical club ECs) get rejected to HYPS even thought they have perfect grades. It’s all about the ECs- these huge schools don’t want people who only study and do nothing else.</p>
<p>So IMO, it depends.</p>
<p>:/ I thought HE86 was back :b</p>
<p>Instead it was one of those post once necros by random people</p>
<p>I wasn’t feeling the HE86 vibe… :p</p>
<p>just curious, what does HE86 mean?</p>
<p>HopefulEagle86 - the OP</p>
<p>The ones I know were qualified for MIT before they were born. It’s a whole other place. Princeton is more “normal,” (ie: they don’t necessarily wear rumpled shirts with ketchup stains) but they’re pretty naturally smart too, I think.</p>