Are SAT IIs overrated for admission?

<p>when was the last time that you heard doing average on a test was bad??</p>

<p>you people are insane</p>

<p>"National Average" - This doesnt only compare you with the cream of the crop (ie. ppl who actually attend college/high school), but also with high school dropouts, strippers, pimps, drug addicts, drug dealers, and retarted people who cant speak. Are you saying it is good to be on average with those kind of people, because that is precisely what national average means?</p>

<p>im sure a student who got a 600 on an sat2 is not a drug dealer or stripper or whatever the hell you're talking about...in fact many of the people in my school get in the 600s on sat2s and are in all ap classes...so im pretty sure you just made up that definition you psycho.</p>

<p>anonamous
Just in case you are serious:
National average refers to the average score of the people who took the test.
In the case of SAT IIs, that would be college bound students who think they would do reasonably well on that particular achievement test.
A self selected, higher achieving group</p>

<p>Yeah you sound very ignorant anonamous.</p>

<p>Some people don't mind being average.</p>

<p>Too many of us, like anonamous and me, getting the average would be horrific.</p>

<p>Half the people who took the test did better than you. Is that good? If a person gets average grades, average scores, goes to an average college, then it'll be a lot harder to find a job.</p>

<p>650 is bad for any SAT test.</p>

<p>Of course, only people who want to go to college take the SATs, but the test is still open to be taken by anyone in high school. It's not like the AIME.</p>

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<p>My friend felt like **** after getting a 710 on the SAT Bio (average is 630). I told him "don't worry, you're still waaay higher than the average", and he told me back, "are WE average?!". So yeah, not too long ago asparo.</p>

<p>Whow... I was jk dude.... Peace ^^</p>

<p>And yeah, I agree with Flippy - I would imagine that barely anyone in this board is below average. An average college would probably be a community college, or some 4-year college we have never heard of. We are all applying to top universities, whether it is in the top 10 or top 100, it is still wayyy above average!</p>

<p>I second what Flippy said as well. I mean personally, if I got an "average" score on a standardized test, I can tell you that yes, I would be highly disappointed. Maybe my life wouldn't be "over," but at least I'd be disappointed with myself and my own potential. I guess it's all relative, because if you're usually a below average student and you get an average score, then I'd applaud you and your efforts. However, on the other hand, if you were an above average student with the same score, disappointment would likely ensue.</p>

<p>I think colleges weigh SATI's some higher because for SATII's, you get to pick what you take, so they would expect you to do better in whatever subjects you feel are your "specialty." Thus, if you're a humanities-oriented student and only take math/science SATII's, you can't say, oh those aren't my strong suits, because you should know what you're good at.</p>

<p>Actually I think it depends alot on the college. Let me give you an example. Harvey Mudd (for transfer admission) doesnt care if you submit a SAT 1 result or not. However, they "stongly recommend" you send in SAT 2 scores of Math 2c + other science subjects. As for U of Chicago, they do not require SAT 2, but they do require SAT 1, as a factor of admission. If you were to generalise I would think that only elite colleges require or recommend SAT 2, and for those that do, they probably should weigh it around roughly the same as SAT 1.</p>

<p>"I think colleges weigh SATI's some higher because for SATII's, you get to pick what you take, so they would expect you to do better in whatever subjects you feel are your "specialty."</p>

<p>Good point aTc.</p>