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<p>That goes directly to the heart of one huge problem; most of our K-12 educators and administrators come from the bottom of the proverbial barrel and graduated from horrible schools with defrees in Education. And then, you have the issue of … “superintendents!”</p>
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<p>Certainly there are employers who screen that way. However, there are a lot of employers in areas far from Ivy League schools, employers who know that the best and the brightest from their states are much more likely to go to public universities than Ivies. An Ivy-quality student from the Northeast might apply to several Ivies. They would all be within a few hours’ drive of home. An Ivy-quality student from the West, South, or Midwest might never consider going that far away to school, even if that student had good reason to believe that he/she might be accepted. Moreover, the very strong public university systems in some states tend to keep those states’ students closer to home anyway. I’ve even known a number of students to turn down offers of admission from Ivies to go to their flagship state universities.</p>
<p>Employers who screen out applicants from non-Ivy schools might well be screening out a number of people who would have been admitted to Ivies had they applied to those schools (or even people who turned down offers of admission from Ivies) – people with just as excellent credentials as Ivy graduates. If an employer only wants to employ Ivy graduates, then that screening is logical, although it seems rather short-sighted. However, if the employer wants to interview Ivy-quality graduates, then automatically screening out all non-Ivy graduates is illogical because it screens out applicants who may have those excellent credentials you mentioned.</p>
<p>It is more a question of maximizing their recruitment, makes more sense for them to target the most selective colleges because they have already done some of the selection themselves in forms of admission. Not saying that there aren’t as quailfied grads. from most other colleges, just makes more sense for companies to go where there is a higher percentage of them.</p>
<p>Marsian:
You right. That’s what I was saying. They shouldn’t care except in Wall Street or Supreme Court.</p>
<p>Xiggi:
A superintendent of education makes $230,000 per year (at lease in my area is!). Also, I had a teacher that graduated from Yale. I am currently in a public school system.</p>
<p>I apologize if I offend you.</p>
<p>No offense taken!</p>
<p>A rational person would know that Ivies are purely about status. You attend an Ivy because you want to stand out from the rest. And I don’t intend for that, in any way, to sound derogatory. </p>
<p>The vast majority of those who never attended an Ivy institution have no idea what the schools are about. They have no idea what kind of instruction the students are getting, what facilities are available to the students, or what type of college experience they are receiving. They just know that the media tells them “these schools are the best”, “these schools are where your kids need to go in order to not be considered an imbecile in life”. It’s just accepted by society to believe these claims, without having done any in-depth research to verify how legimate the claims are.</p>
<p>I’m not postulating that Ivy’s are junk either, because that would be ridiculous… What I am saying though is that there CAN be more than a select few excellent universities out there. And in fact, there exist many. The problem is that college rankings try to dissuade that notion by making you believe that, in theory, no two college professors can teach at the same quality level… and that no two colleges can offer CFD facilities of similar quality to aspiring Mechanical Engineers.</p>
<p>A high quality education can be had in many schools around the country. You should be primarily concerned about the quality of the program offered, and the overall fit of the school with your personality (i.e. are you a southwest desert person, or an east coast person? do you prefer small schools or large? private school or public university?). Once you’re in, it’s up to you to decide your future.</p>
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<p>That sounds like a version of collective brainwashing. Are we reaching a point anytime soon where people will be less entralled by the Ivy mystic?</p>