<p>But that creates individuality. People express themselves through piercings, tattoos, etc… Why would God count that as a sin? I seriously think religion is absolutely foolish in many ways. I mean, you can believe in a higher power, yes, but assuming that one thing is a sin is all biased. Nobody ever met this “god” for all you know, he might think being straight is a sin.</p>
<p>^What was your speech about?</p>
<p>I hate when professors (even when I agree with them) say that one opinion is always the correct one. Isn’t one of the point of higher education to hear different opinions and develop your own opinions?</p>
<p>^Because professors are objective and even thinking about subjective thoughts are against their religion.</p>
<p>I don’t remember what the exact topic of the speech had to be. I think it just had to be about something controversial and something that was a big topic in the news. At that time, this really was. I think I just was backing up reasons why I believed that gay couples should be allowed to be married.</p>
<p>I should have known. I went to a community college in a small, southern, town. My instructor looked like he wanted to be sick when I was giving my speech. The entire class looked at me like I must have been born on some other planet.</p>
<p>I don’t care what your beliefs are, but there’s no reason a person should be treated like that! I was so upset that I was seriously close to just running out of the class and never returning. Most people never showed up for that class or did any work anyway- at least I did! But I knew it would be harder to return and face them after running out, and I was also worried it might effect my grade if I left early.</p>
<p>But seriously, professors should not open such deeply controversial topics for discussion if they’re not willing to hear all sides! You just simply can not grade someone else’s project badly because you don’t agree with them! Thinking about it makes me absolutely sick!</p>
<p>Well if I’m ever a professor, I’ll be able to tolerate all opinions. Now give me a Ph D. :D</p>
<p>I read on ratemyprofessors that my Sociology professor right now will grade down your essay if you disagree with him. That’s not stopping me from arguing with him haha</p>
<p>^ haha! </p>
<p>This was the point when I started getting really frustrated with that school. This is the same school where these super religious people spent our entire semester of biology telling the instructor why he was wrong to teach us this subject and how everything he is saying is crap. It’s biology! Why take the class when you’re clearly not going to be okay with the subject matter?!</p>
<p>^ I was just about to say that. Haha they should have taken Chem or something. When I lived in Texas and we were learning about Evolution almost the entire class was so mad about it. They were saying how Evolution is a hoax and that Adam and Eve were the first humans on earth, etc. I seriously wanted to slap them.</p>
<p>@r0kAng3l People express themselves through piercings, tattoos, etc… Why would God count that as a sin?
God made humans in his image. He wants us to be clean and pure. Many people do their own thing due to temptations of the world and their flesh. Why put markings and holes on the body that God made perfectly for you, if he wanted you to have those things, then you would have been born with it.I’m not great myself, I have a piercing, and want to get a second one, which I’m still thinking about getting even thought I know it is bad to do. But like I said before God knows your heart, and he see’s and knows all. Where all individuals either way, why get a tattoo of a bible verse, when its better to just memorize it???
“he might think being straight is a sin”
In the bible God says when a man finds a woman (meaning marries her) that it is a good thing. I wish I could elaborate more, but my mom is rushing me to the store lol.</p>
<p>^ My class acted the same way. I think I slept most of the time or thought about the stories I was working on. I felt SO bad for the teacher. He actually did a great job teaching that class, and I think I gave him a great review when it came time to submit in our reviews for our professors at the end of the semester.</p>
<p>The public speaking guy? Let’s just say he didn’t get such a good review :D</p>
<p>^Well I believe in Evolution, some people say that it’s stupid and that God had to have made humans directly. I believe that evolution was part of God’s plan to create humans. I mean there’s scientific evidence, why are people so stubborn? I think evolution and Christianity are completely compatible.</p>
<p>I think the Bible is perfectly clear though that Eve was at least the first woman on the Earth. Until science shows otherwise, I’ll probably stick to that belief. But I will give you the evolution point.</p>
<p>And I have no problem with piercings or tattoos, the Bible says to treat your body as God’s temple but I believe that as long as you are doing no purposeful physical harm (like cutting yourself etc… and getting a tattoo or piercing does not count), anythings ok. Again, the problem is the level that people interpret the Bible. Some people say that by getting a piercing or tattoo, you are destroying your body.</p>
<p>If the institution of gay marriage doesn’t directly affect - in an empirically verifiable fashion - my wallet or the crime rate, then I don’t care.</p>
<p>I know it says that in the bible, but man created the bible. Man is manipulative and lie. We all lie, we exaggerate the truth, and we cheat. I do not trust everything the bible would say, merely for the fact that it was created by MAN. Even look at the history books, yes half of it is right, but they do not tell all of the truth. If we cannot even trust our own history books, then why even trust the bible? It didn’t fall from the sky.</p>
<p>^That’s a good point but I believe though that the Bible was written by men inspired by God. It says in the Bible that “All scripture is God-breathed and useful for teaching and rebuking.”</p>
<p>I also believe that if the apostles knew that Jesus had not come back from the dead or had said any of the things that they did that they would not have been so willing to be killed for their faith. (And even with eyewitnesses, nobody has come out and clearly said that everything was a hoax). They had plenty of time to do that while the disciples of Jesus and Paul were going around Europe and Asia spreading the message of Jesus Christ.</p>
<p>PS: if any point do you want me to stop, I will. I just have a lot of free time today :)</p>
<p>"I also believe that if the apostles knew that Jesus had not come back from the dead or had said any of the things that they did that they would not have been so willing to be killed for their faith. "</p>
<p>There are plenty of people who are willing to die for their faith even though they have no proof of the things they believe in. For instance, the Sept. 11th terrorists believed they were going to go to heaven and get 99 or so virgins apiece. </p>
<p>Decades ago, almost 1,000 of Rev. Jim Jones’ followers committed suicide because they believed in his paranoid ravings. </p>
<p>As for no one saying that Jesus’ rising from the dead was a hoax – who would say that? The Bible was written by his followers, who were a relatively small group of people in the world at that time. For most people during that time, his life and death went unnoticed just as occurs for other religious leaders of minor sects during our time.</p>
<p>shortly after Jesus died, Christianity spread like wildfire, I would think that the accounts surrounding Jesus’ death would’ve been looked into at that point by at least someone. And someone could’ve gotten up and disproved what Jesus’ followers had said since it was still within the same generation. But nobody did as far as I know.</p>
<p>Anyways I apologize for leading this thread down this path. Back to the main topic…</p>
<p>Pierre0913, beware of using mostly revisionist history in reasoned arguments.</p>
<p>“And someone could’ve gotten up and disproved what Jesus’ followers had said since it was still within the same generation. But nobody did as far as I know.”</p>
<p>How could that have been disproved? It would be one person’s word against another. If I say that, for instance, I have seen angels, you can’t prove that I haven’t.</p>
<p>And, I agree: This has gotten waaaay off topic.</p>
<p>Get this…I have no opinion.
I don’t care who marries who; whether you’re man, woman, or leopard. People are weird and claim to love whatever. It’s none of my business and the only things I might be opposed to is benefits…for both hetero and homosexual couples. I’m against the “everything that’s yours is mine.” thing, especially concerning bank accounts…but that’s not even the issue being discussed.
When people ask me what I think about gay marriage I say “I don’t care, let them eat [wedding] cake.”
So…sure, if you demand that I take a side, yes, I’m okay with gay marriage. As much as I am okay with straight marriage. …Everyone gets divorced these days anyways.</p>
<p>I wouldn’t want the prevention of gay marriage to be te one thing I accomplish in life. It’s one thing to not adamantly support gay marriage; it’s another thing to waste a life protesting it. There’s only a limited number of issues one person can support and make a difference in. </p>
<p>There are many stereotypically Republican stances that need to be taken now–especially fiscal conservatism–before it’s too late. It’s a shame that our reputation is marred by our stances on inconsequential topics that affect a minority of people. And to be frank, it makes some economically ignorant Democrats naturally oppose us because they assume all our opinions are equally absurd. </p>
<p>If two people want to marry, let them. Adjust the tax code as necessary to avoid incentives to marry for financial reasons. Tax breaks shouldn’t go to those making 170-200k just because they file jointly, anyways.</p>