<p>spydersix goes to a T15 university? God save our education system…</p>
<p>Further proof that college rankings mean nothing.</p>
<p>spydersix - Are you that Alexandria girl? You sure seem like it. Not all Asians are loud, and Asians aren’t the only people who get loud in the library. II’m Asian and I’m the quietest person you will ever meet. In fact, a lot of Asians I’ve met are known to be quiet in environments like the library. Over the spring semester during finals week, there was this guy sitting behind me in the library who was playing his music loud and being obnoxious (he eventually got kicked out). He was white. Stop discriminating against Asians. And maybe they choose to hang with Asians because they’re not comfortable with their English?</p>
<p>I don’t know why people are railing on Asians for only preferring to hang with their own kind, while every other ethnicity on campus does it as well. Most schools are still, for the most part, self-segregated. So, why is it always Asians that seem to take the brunt of the criticism when everyone else does it?</p>
<p>International asian students do just hang out with eachother, speak their native language, go to panda express, etc. etc.</p>
<p>At least for the most part. </p>
<p>They can be very annoying as well.</p>
<p>And I think when you are talking about groups of only one type hanging out together and saying that white people do it to you have to look at the numbers at your college. White people are probably the most common race, therefore a random group of students hanging out together is most likely all white (as opposed to all black or something). International asian students do not make up nearly as much of the population but they seem to all hang out together. This goes with most minorities I guess though.</p>
<p>I also go to a top 15 university and I will come in on the side of Spydersix on this one as well.</p>
<p>Those of you bleeding heart “tolerance and multiculturalism” types have clearly never tried to study for midterms in a library at midnight while a group of Chinese students (it is rarely Koreans or southeast asians) are yapping at full talking volume in a language no one but them understands from a country thousands of miles away. It is truly one of the most irritating things I have ever experienced. Chinese students, in my experience, are completely unaware of social norms of the US. While this is to be expected, it is no excuse for them to not observe and learn from their social surroundings. For example, they rarely say “please” or “thank you” and they frequently interrupt professors. They also have no volume control over their voices. If you’re smart enough to get into this school, why are you so oblivious of your surroundings?</p>
<p>It would be a grave social blunder to not bow to the proper level (or even worse, not bow at all) if you were a western businessman visiting Japan. So why is it acceptable for students of other cultures to completely ignore the established norms of decency and politeness in the United States?</p>
<p>As if educating international students, often paid for by American students’ tuition, who will go back to their respective countries to compete against ours while thousands, if not millions of American students struggle to get into prestigious colleges wasn’t ridiculous enough…</p>
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<p>I’m sure he meant Tier 15 college. </p>
<p>But in that case, what are Asians doing at his university :o? </p>
<p>Perhaps it is all a fabrication?</p>
<p>I’d say as long as your English is good and you’re not obnoxious, you should be fine. Language problems tend to be a barrier, and of course the cultural stuff will take a while to get used to. lol there are rascists everywhere, just ignore them!</p>
<p>I’m asian, and was born in the states. i live in seattle, and the university of washington is 30% asian, so ofcourse there’s almost 0% discrimination here. In fact, I would say there’s more racism from asian to other races than there is other races to asian (openly and publicly. not talking about personal prejudice that people keep to themselves).</p>
<p>If you’re going to a school with more than 10% student pop being asian, you should face minimal prejudice. On the other hand, if you’re going to a school in the deep south where the asian population is near 1%… you may get a few stares and some “CH!NK” or “I KILLED YOUR UNCLE IN VIETNAM YOU G00K!”. but it’s all good, all hatred is the result of jealousy and insecurity. haters gonna hate.</p>
<p>you’ll be fine. if you have a british accent, people might laugh though…</p>
<p>^Well that’s the South. They don’t know any better</p>
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<p>Sorry, but the Chinese students I went to community college with were quiet in the library. The three times I went to the library here at UCD, the noise level was practically nonexistent, no matter what kind of Asians were in there. Just because the Chinese at YOUR school are loud doesn’t mean all Chinese students are loud. And what’s wrong with them conversing to each other in their native language? They feel more natural speaking in their native language than in their second language.</p>
<p>And they rarely say please or thank you? Really? You’re going to assume all Chinese students are impolite just because you’ve had a few bad experiences with them at your school?</p>
<p>I don’t care about them speaking in their own language, just don’t be so loud and obnoxious while doing it. I wouldn’t go to a library in China and start talking in a loud voice in English and consider that acceptable. Be polite. I have also distinguished between different Asian groups, maybe your library only had Koreans in it or something, who are in my experience very docile and polite. These aren’t westernized Asians either, these are international students, of which I assume there aren’t many at UC Davis or at a community college. Asian Americans are like anyone else, it’s just the international students that bug me.</p>
<p>My perception of Chinese people as impolite and obnoxious does not stem only from my college experience. One of them lived with my extended family for a year. He basically had to be taught all conventional standards of manners when he came here. I also went to high school with a few first generation ESL Chinese students. This is a pretty prevalent stereotype, you know, and I frequently find it to be true.</p>
<p>You probably went to an all white high school, didn’t you?</p>
<p>No, I went to a multicultural high school. If anything, it was the black, Latinos, and white people who were the loud people at my high school. The Asians were huddled together in their groups and usually whispered and giggled. The loudest Asians at my high school were actually Korean–there were more of them than there were Chinese. </p>
<p>And no, there are Chinese students at the library I went to in community college as well. I sat next to a group of international Chinese students once, and they were just quietly doing their work on the computer.</p>
<p>And there are many international students at UCD, and even more at my community college. A lot of students I knew in community college weren’t local students, they were international students, many of them being Chinese.</p>
<p>i’m glad i didn’t go to washU
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<p>So maybe you should go up to them and communicate with them. Let them know that you’re studying for a midterm, and you’d appreciate it if they could keep their voices down. And if they really are as inconsiderate as you make them out to be, then ask the librarians at WashU to remind them about the library’s quiet policy. Unless, of course, WashU is too “bleeding heart ‘tolerance and multiculturalism’” to do that!</p>
<p>Michigan is all “bleeading heart tolerance and multiculturism” too.</p>
<p>There is a “insert race here (but not white) group” for everything on campus. There are multicultural groups and councils all over the place too. Then all the specific scholarships for minorities and women…</p>
<p>hard to be a white male… :(</p>
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<p>Wow, thanks for generalizing all Chinese people like that. Just because the Chinese students at your school are like that doesn’t mean all Chinese people are like that. Plenty of Chinese people I know personally say “please” and “thank you.” Also, you assume that the Chinese are the only people who don’t say “please” and “thank you’s”, but there are people of all different races who don’t say it, either. Personally, I don’t say them either, but that’s because I’m “mute” (as in, I’m too damn shy to open my mouth and say anything).</p>
<p>I live in a multicultural city by the way. </p>
<p>And there’s no such thing as an “all white school”. It would be discriminatory for a school to accept only white people and not people of other races.</p>
<p>You also might want to research UC Davis’ demographics before you go off assuming there aren’t a lot of international students there.</p>
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<p>Yeah, at least you have a quiet library to study in.</p>
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<p>I never said all Chinese people are like that. The majority I have dealt with are, however. And of course other members of other races are rude and obnoxious. I do not expect international students to know the social customs of another country upon arrival. However, I do expect them to try to learn from their surroundings and to be polite to the others around them. You don’t mess up someone else’s house when you come over. You do not other the other students in a public space with your personal conversations.</p>
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<p>Ever been to the Midwest?</p>
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<p>Dumbest thing I’ve heard in a while here. So what if the school was in an area where only one race lived? Just a few miles from Washington University is East St. Louis, Illinois, where pretty much only black people live. There are 1800 kids in the public high school and the graduating class usually has between 0-5 white students. This is “racist” in your opinion because one group is wildly under-represented compared to their respective slice of the population. Don’t tell me you are one of those “we should mix everybody by busing in minorities into other school districts, yay multiculturalism” types of people, all that leads to is gang fights in school and kids and teachers getting physically injured (don’t believe me? A nearly all white high school near where I lived had a teacher stabbed by a Somali student recently. Many students who feel uncomfortable when not with members of their own race are likely to act out, sometimes violently). </p>
<p>If you believe in multiculturalism then Angela Merkel, Nicolas Sarkozy and the entire population of Scandinavia would like to have a word with you…</p>
<p>We NEED AA man</p>
<p>I mean, if there wasn’t one or two black people in my engineering classes, maybe a latino here and there, I would be culturally inept. I couldn’t function. So it only makes sense to do all we can to bring these groups to areas they aren’t normally, like women to engineering, even if some more qualified applicants get snubbed in the process.</p>
<p>Plus we want our university to be able to make pamphlets with a white female, black guy, asian girl and latino guy all smiling together while in a study group. Or to post the numbers that show how culturally varied we are. 8% African Americans? Well we have 10%, suck on that.</p>
<p>Yeah the posters/pamphlets crack me up. The entire inherently racist/anti racist hypocrisy of AA cracks me up.</p>