<p>True/False:
1. I love math and science.
2. I speak (insert asian language)
3. I want to go to HYPSM/UC Berkeley/UCLA/Gtown/Northwestern/some other brand name college.
4. I want to become a doctor/engineer.
5. I want to/intend to live in LA.
6. I take/intend to take any three of the following: AP Bio/AP Chem/AP Phys B or C/AP Calc BC.
7. Your parents think anything below 2200 is horrible.</p>
<p>0-1 trues: Not asian. You're safe.
2-3 trues: Marginally asian. Be careful.
4-5 trues: Moderately asian. Take some advil.
6-7 trues: Very Asian. I'm sorry :(</p>
<p>BTW, I got 1/7 trues (#2 true). So I'm not asian yay :)</p>
<p>theres no need to stereotype all asians. japaense americans are not this way at all. they are very successful but are not driven by test scores and GPA and HYPS. most japanese americans do not go to "top" colleges. koreans, chinese, and indians are the focus of y'all.</p>
<p>^ You the what the scary thing is? I have never seen a Japanese American (i've seen alot of international students.. but) that's odd.. maybe its just the south (but i still see alot of chinese people though?)</p>
<p>It's because Japanese people don't live in their own bubble, i.e. Chinatown, Koreatown, etc. You don't hear of Japantown anywhere. They're completely blended into the fabric of American society, and therefore are able to eliminate the "glass ceiling," or not be considered a minority.</p>
<p>Uh I don't live anywhere that really has "china town" or "korean town" yet I still see them just fine. And it's not always good to "blend in..." I think people should be free to be independent/.</p>
<p>OK I stand corrected. But Japanese Americans aren't known (at all) for being exclusive and cliquish. Koreans and Chinese are known for that, and actually ARE exclusive and cliquish. Have you ever seen two Japanese venues side by side (except for in Japantown in SF)? I didn't think so. Seen any Japanese at a sushi place? No (well, a little, but you don't see the name of the place written in Japanese). </p>
<p>And most of the very few Japanese parents I talked to speak near-fluent English, own homes and two cars, and are in established professional jobs.</p>
<p>As much as I think people should be able to be independent and be unique and stuff, my belief is that this shouldn't preclude you from getting equal/quasi-equal treatment. They should blend in just enough to become established here.</p>
<p>I don't think anyone's allowed to judge(i.e., bash) asian parents unless they've actually been in the situation themselves. My parents are immigrants and we came over here when I was 2 1/2. I know the whole asian parents pretige thing seems like an epidemic, but it's because they love you. No matter if you want to hear it or not, it's the truth. They don't want you to have to be a carpenter, plumber, painter, supermarket manager or any back braking work when you grow up. Not knowing all the other great schools around, they automatically pick the top, the "best" to them and the rest of the world because asian parents jump to conclusions. It's their nature to be possessive and obnoxious, but most of all, caring.</p>
<p>My parents were set on me going to Berkeley up until freshmen year. They basically threatened me, but I hated it. So I told them I would rather die than go to Berkeley -- I know I just won't be happy there and they accepted it after 3 years of the silent treatment about education. They realized that they've raised a responsible young lady, therefore I should be in control of my destiny. I have standards, too and it will be me who takes care of them in their old age. Yeah, so I'm the joke of Chinatown because I have an English accent when I speak Chinese, but I don't care because I've accepted my fate as an Asian American.</p>
<p>I've come to realize that Asians work hard, period. They're kinda living their dreams through their sons and daughters, in some cases.</p>
<p>Another thing different about asian parents -- they'll NEVER turn their back on you if you're broke. They think you'll just owe them later on. It'll be more of a shame to have a hobo in the family than a failure. Asian families help out one another. A lot of asian kids don't pay for their own stuff, unless they have a job.</p>
<p>Actually, there is a Japantown in San Francisco and Koreatown is about half a block of Korean stores. (Sorry, but I think it's because you live in OK.)</p>
<p>So don't feel sorry for me just because I'm asian. Yeah, I don't like being asian, but then again, I couldn't imagine myself not being asian.</p>
<p>By the way, "Asians" isn't a race. So generalizing the whole continent isn't right. Japanese, Chinese and Koreans each have different cultures and traditions.</p>
<p>The Japanese are somewhat cliquish. They have a school dedicated to Japanese Americans in San Francisco. In my middle school, a third of the asians were Japanese. And the Japanese are really respectable people, so they don't really stand out as a menace to society like rude old Chinese ladies.</p>
<p>Have you seen/dealt with Korean-Americans? I must say, they make the Japanese look inclusive. At least the JapaneseAmericans don't pressure/annoy/bother you if you don't join their "clique" and respect your decision not to. I've seen a lot of Korean Americans who won't respect that I'm somewhat more adapted to living here than they are, and won't stop bothering me and trust me, after 3 years, IT GETS OLD.</p>
<p>Actually, if you really get down to it, "Asian" is considered a race per the old anthropological definition of such. Nonetheless, it remains a far too vague generalization for many circumstances.</p>
<p>Anyway, as far as the so-called "inclusiveness" of Japanese-Americans is concerned, it most likely has to do with the fact that the Japanese, as a group, are probably the most "Americanized" of the three Northeast Asian groups. Koreans are probably the least, mostly due to the recent nature of Korean immigration.</p>
<p>UCLAri ~ I don't think Asians are cliquish, i'm personally chinese and my parents and I have friends from all cultures. maybe the most cliquish asians are those that cant speak english so they cant communicate with other people beyond their cultural group</p>
<p>That's usually the case with most immigrants. This "cliquishness" is seen in all minority groups. </p>
<p>But, if we are to even attempt to paint Asians with any sort of broad brush, it seems that many agree that Japanese are usually the most "Americanized" of the East Asian immigrants.</p>
<p>My parents were set on me going to Berkeley up until freshmen year. They basically threatened me, but I hated it. So I told them I would rather die than go to Berkeley -- I know I just won't be happy there and they accepted it after 3 years of the silent treatment about education. They realized that they've raised a responsible young lady, therefore I should be in control of my destiny. I have standards, too and it will be me who takes care of them in their old age. Yeah, so I'm the joke of Chinatown because I have an English accent when I speak Chinese, but I don't care because I've accepted my fate as an Asian American.</p>
<p>I've come to realize that Asians work hard, period. They're kinda living their dreams through their sons and daughters, in some cases.</p>
<p>Another thing different about asian parents -- they'll NEVER turn their back on you if you're broke. They think you'll just owe them later on. It'll be more of a shame to have a hobo in the family than a failure. Asian families help out one another. A lot of asian kids don't pay for their own stuff, unless they have a job.</p>
<p>Actually, there is a Japantown in San Francisco and Koreatown is about half a block of Korean stores. (Sorry, but I think it's because you live in OK.)</p>
<p>So don't feel sorry for me just because I'm asian. Yeah, I don't like being asian, but then again, I couldn't imagine myself not being asian.</p>
<p>By the way, "Asians" isn't a race. So generalizing the whole continent isn't right. Japanese, Chinese and Koreans each have different cultures and traditions.
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<p>Wow, that has to be the most true and detailed explanation of asian parents ever. They drill this stuffin your head and by the time they let you go, you just can't accept lower grades and such. If I get a B, I pretty much hate it, whereas people around me are like "WOW!!! I got a f****** B!!!" Also, I've noticed that American Kids (no offense) don't really feel anything when they get bad grades and let thier parent;s down. And I definatly don't blame you. Asians, for the most part, on the other hand, feel so guilty when they let thier parents down. Especially with grades. Our parents like tell us that they;ll go homeless if they have to as long as you get a good education.</p>
<p>That's usually the case with most immigrants. This "cliquishness" is seen in all minority groups.</p>
<p>But, if we are to even attempt to paint Asians with any sort of broad brush, it seems that many agree that Japanese are usually the most "Americanized" of the East Asian immigrants.
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<p>I don't think that the Hapenese are most Americanized. Rather, it's us who make them to be. I think that since most of our electronics and such come from Japan, we assume them to be american subconciously. We know they're not, but all these electronics being in english, and the fact that America is one of the biggest importers of Consumer electronics just makes it seem like they would have americanized names, no accent, etc.</p>
<p>You do realize I'm talking about Japanese immigrants and their offspring, right? Second and third-generation Japanese-Americans seem to lose their "Japaneseness" faster than Koreans and Chinese. </p>
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I don't think that the Hapenese are most Americanized. Rather, it's us who make them to be. I think that since most of our electronics and such come from Japan, we assume them to be american subconciously.
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<p>Try this again, but this time, try it in Standard American English.</p>
<p>Oh yea, UCLAri is right. Alot of the japense ppl I know already lost theri "Japeneseness." As much as I hate to generalize, but they're either really whitewash or really into the whole balla concept with hip hop.</p>