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It is becoming increasingly obvious why this guy is such a baller. Congratulations, mate. Enjoy your success. If I ever get into deep ****, I’ll PM you on CC. ;)</p>
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<p>That’s not quite true. Law schools don’t like fluff majors, such as PE (kinesiology), Recreation Science, Criminology, or even “pre-law” if such a major exists. Undergrad biz can also a slight negative at the top 5 law schools, as can a major such as music (it’s assumed that As are pretty easy). OTOH, ANY liberal arts major will be fine.</p>
<p>I plan to go to law school, but I applied for an engineering major. Do you think this is a wise choice? People say engineering is going to bring down your GPA and that law schools don’t care about major, etc., but engineering is something that i am actually interested in, and I would think law schools would pick somebody who went to Berkeley (or any other top undergrad school), studied engineering and has a decent GPA over somebody from a lower tier school with an easy major but a 4.0. What are your thoughts?</p>
<p>Thanks.</p>
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<p>I may have straddled the line of hyperbole slightly but as a general rule it’s true. A 3.9 in Business is always going to do better than a 3.7 in Philosophy.</p>
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<p>Unfortunately, no. That 4.0 is going to beat you out nine times out of ten (unless by decent GPA you mean 3.98).</p>
<p>The admissions process starts off very simply. Your LSAT and GPA are multiplied and then combined with some multiplier to give what’s called your “index number.” Your index number doesn’t include your major, your school, or anything else, but it’s in big bold type on the front of your file before adcomms look at anything else.</p>
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<p>Correct, but a 3.9 in philosophy will (generally) beat a 3.9 from biz, all other things being equal, which they never are.</p>
<p>You wrote that you went to lots of office hours/GSIs to get a good grade. What did you talk about? I am just somehow unable to imagine what I might be talking about supposing I would be doing ok in class. Also, on average, how many hours a day did you spend studying and how much time did you devote to preparing for LSAT? And finally, how is it that you can manage to muster enough motivation to achieve ALL of that?</p>
<p>final question: How are you so badass?</p>
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<p>Ask them about how they’d recommend studying for an upcoming test. Bring them in drafts of your papers (hell, even outlines or intros, I never wrote full rough drafts). Talk to them about the stuff you’re reading in class. If all else fails, ask about their lives. Your GSIs are people too with rigorous and demanding pressures that stress them out. Everybody needs catharsis.</p>
<p>I didn’t go to OH as much as I could have. I would recommend going every other week.</p>
<p>On average how many hours a day did I spend studying? That’s hard to answer. I’d go a week without picking up school work at times. I always had my material prepped for mid-terms and finals though. That means that I’d be reading 1200-1500 pages of reading in a few days when it came time to take tests. On average? Half an hour to an hour with huge twelve hour days come midterm/final season. I wouldn’t recommend my methodology. Stay up to date on your reading and life is a breeze.
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For the LSAT I started studying when finals got out in my Junior year. I studied full time until the test in September.</p>
<p>I never really considered myself exceptionally motivated. I was reasonably smart, knew that I wanted A’s, and the rest kind of fell into place. Come Junior year I did research about what I needed to get into a good law school, saw that my GPA was solid, and then crammed my ass off for the LSAT. The rest worked itself out, though I would have done things differently to make my life easier.</p>
<p>ib: An enchanted monkey’s paw.</p>
<p>how many fingers do you have left?</p>
<p>put in a good wish for the guys</p>
<p>Pretty disheartening to hear that college doesn’t matter and that all that matters is what GPA you got in that college.</p>
<p>Is it normal to have trouble in believing that someone from an easy peasy college taking a simple major will beat out the Cal student who did well, but not perfect and took a serious major? Any sure sign of this, like official statement, rather than just saying that they look at some index number first?</p>
<p>Also, double majors: hurt, help, or no effect? Leadership, as well.</p>
<p>i think the HLS topic creator has a point. definitely high gpa/ high lsat comes first. but if u check HLS, YLS, columbia, etc you will see that most of the students come from top 20 schools.</p>
<p>if 20 are from harvard and 1 is from Bumble**** U, u can assume that more at bumble applied but only that 1 got in. i think in the end, prestige still matters.</p>
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<p>Don’t forget that you get a bit of self-selection. Many kids have no plans or interest in NYC Big Law and are more than happy to get their degree and networking contacts at instate U.</p>
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<p>It’s statistically hard to separate grade-inflated schools (cough, cough) with “prestige”. Also, by definition, H has the highest mean SAT scorers in the country. Thus, it is natural that H will have the highest LSAT scores in the country (which it does). Since LSAT is ~50% of admissions…Bumble U has a distinct disadvantage, not bcos of prestige, but bcos of the students that it matriculates. </p>
<p>Thus, the real question, is someone better off with a 4.0 at Bumble U or the median (~3.5) at HYP, with the same LSAT score. Obvious answer: the 4.0.</p>
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<p>This is from Yale’s entering class profile of 214. For those that don’t know, Yale is the #1 law school in the US.
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<p>76 different institutions in an accepted class of 214.</p>
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<p>Nice, I guess I’ll just focus on preparing for the LSAT. Any recommendations for test prep services?</p>
<p>What are your views on college relationships? Did you get involved with anybody during your four years at Cal?</p>
<p>Did you ever take the English course called “American Novel”? Or any class with Professor Bryan Wagner?</p>
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<p>I self studied and would recommend the same. Powerscore bibles + actual prep tests = success. I’ve heard good things about Blueprint though.</p>
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<p>I dated someone my freshman year and had a handful of very very brief relationships (a week or two at a time) later on. My view on relationships doesn’t have anything to do with their interference with studying, I just think that they’re a waste of time. Don’t tie yourself down for four years.</p>
<p>I did not take either that class or anything with Wagner, though I’ve heard his name before.</p>
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<p>How are they a waste of time if they didn’t interfere with your studying and if you enjoy spending time with the people you dated (presumably that’s why you dated them…)? Would you say grad school is a better time to pursue these things?</p>
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<p>My own personal philosophies. But yes, grad school does seem more apt.</p>
<p>Q: Did you next-day-air or courier same-day-air your HARVARD LAW sweatshirt and baseball cap?</p>