We are talking about a 12 year old girl, not a career woman. I am very glad to see this being discussed in general.
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Someone mentioned that if Dushku wanted to make this up she would have found a bigger target like Joss Whedon. However, Joss Whedon already has some pretty devastating accusations leveled against him by his ex-wife. She claims that he deceived her for years while carrying on affairs with young actresses, all the while pretending to be a feminist. She penned an interesting analysis of Whedon’s rationale for what he did to her.
https://www.thewrap.com/joss-whedon-feminist-hypocrite-infidelity-affairs-ex-wife-kai-cole-says/
I love Joss Whedon’s work. But it doesn’t surprise me that he could justify almost anything.
And I think @intparent that you may be intentionally, possibly misunderstanding the nuances between adult women’s issues and children (either female or male) and the protections that have been or should have been in place for children , even n the 90’s. Children have always been considered in need of protection. That is why, even be n the 90’s, there have been guardians on set with vulnerable minors, laws to protect minors, mandated reporters, etc.
Unless you’re a pastor or the like, I don’t think cheating on your wife with other consenting adults ought to be a factor in your employment. That’s a very different picture than anything with a 12-year-old, or abusing a position of power to harass or pressure adult targets.
Joss’s ex-wife doesn’t seem at all concerned about whether Joss was withholding jobs from women who wouldn’t sleep with him or otherwise committing sexual harassment. Which I’m sure is the same way I’d feel in her position, but I’m not in her position.
If cheating on your spouse kept you from employment, there would be a whole lot of people out of work!
I am not convinced, honestly, that teens and even kids got as much protection in the 90s as they do now. (Jerry Sandusky, anyone?)
Unfortunately, predators have been and always will be amongst us.
Yes but there are very few industries in this country with child labor. There is a problem in the entertainment industry that needs a major overhaul. There is an excellent documentary on Vimeo called An Open Secret and it does illustrate how even the most well intentioned parents can get sucked in.
I think industries like entertainment , modeling, sports, etc. seem particularly vulnerable for children. Oftentimes, the talent, , opportunities start young and there will be those that seek to capitalize on that.
Unfortunately, where there are children, there will be child predators: child modeling, Scouts, schools, youth sports, afterschool programs for kids, religious programs for kids, on and on. We just have to set up systems to prevent the predators from abusing. Unfortunately, the systems can be annoying and cumbersome for normal non-abusers, and get in the way, but nevertheless, if there is a place for kids that doesn’t have protections, the predators will gravitate there.
The alleged events with Ms. Dushku happened a long time ago. Are kids on movie sets still as much at risk as they were then?
Penn State didn’t have “child labor”. And neither did the Catholic Church – well, maybe sort of, if you consider “alter boy” labor. I do not blame the industry specifically. Predators find a way.
“Are kids on movie sets still as much at risk as they were then?”
God, I hope not.
Jackie wasn’t describing a childhood memory. Nor was she describing events that happened decades ago. She was describing events that allegedly happened 2-3 years ago when she reported them to the Rolling Stone.
That post was responding to Eliza Dushku’s story. I was using Jackie from UVA as an example of someone who is considered to have “made it up” because the events didn’t happen like she said.
https://www.salon.com/2018/01/14/its-not-a-sex-panic-how-to-hit-on-women-in-the-metoo-age/
^^This seemed to me an interesting essay, especially thinking about the open letter from the French women.
I read the first article from Salon.com, @alh , but skipped the comments.
My impression is the author employed the phrase “feminists and prudes” in a derisive manner in order to be provocative, and perhaps that is what caused an uproar in the comments section?
The main theme of the article seems tame enough.
It’s unfortunate, IMO, that the term feminist has taken on a negative connotation. Is that generational?
^sorry I deleted part of my post.
It isn’t clear to me what the term feminist even means any more. It does seem to me some younger people find it exclusionary on some level. And, of course, sometimes feminist groups have been exclusionary.
It seems that every word for a strong woman becomes negative to a certain part of the population and that stains it with a negative vibe for future generations as well.
We can thank the one who coined the phrase “femi-nazi”, which has lead to young women saying things like, “I’m not a feminist, but…” , and go on to espouse various things that feminists espouse. It makes me sad.
I just think the term feminist has just broadened to include the entire spectrum from women who are truly man-haters all the way to women who simply want to paid the same for same work. But it feels to me that it has recently become more of a negative thing which is really unfortunate for our young women. The only hope I have is that if the tides turn and women quit defining themselves constantly as victims because of metoo and the pendulum will right itself. The metoo movement did much good to start the dialogue but time to put it to bed in favor of something more empowering.