Athletics for the non-recruited athlete

<p>Hey, Nationals would be VERY cool but there aren't any divisions in Ultimate. Rhodes V Stanford? I don't think so. :eek: Well, she says she loves it. Says she's decent for a noob. They've been to Vandy, Hendrix, Arkansas and Ole Miss so far for tournaments. The school gets them two rooms for eleven dozen kids. :eek:</p>

<p>I'm hoping in a year or two she'll give me a schedule.:(</p>

<p>Cur -</p>

<p>Organize the parental units. Have the parents offer to bring tents and food to the tournaments. I'll bet you'll be put on the schedule!</p>

<p>Apparently Carelton is very big on Ultimate and has claimed a national title or two...Harvey Mudd also has Moonlight Ultimate!</p>

<p>Your kids are in very elite company!!!!</p>

<p>Ultimate Frisbee as a Predictor of Academic Performance</p>

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<p>The Ultimate Mystery: Popular Sport Beats SATs at Ranking Universities
Academically
A study being released September 1 of all private national universities
shows that their ranking in Ultimate Frisbee edges out both SATs and
grades as a predictor of academic performance! Those ranked in the top
half for Ultimate have a graduation rate of over 85%, while those in the
bottom half just 60%. The top seven have nearly as many Rhodes scholars
and Marshall scholars as all others combined.</p>

<p>Seattle, WA (PRWEB) August 31, 2006 — Move over SATs. Incredibly, for
the high-powered and high-priced private national universities, the best
predictor of academic excellence is rank in a popular sport.</p>

<p>Whether measured by graduation rate or prestigious scholarships - the
result is the same. What is this sport that mysteriously divines a
university’s stature so precisely? It’s called Ultimate Frisbee, or more
commonly just Ultimate. It is the fastest growing college sport and is
already played interscholastically at over 500 colleges and
universities. While wildly popular on campuses, relatively few in the
wider world have even heard of it.</p>

<p>A study (slated for release September 1) by Dr. Michael Norden of the
University of Washington shows that among all 86 private national
universities, those ranking in the top half for Ultimate have a
graduation rate of over 85%, while those in the bottom half graduate
just 60%. The difference in the totals of Rhodes scholars and Marshall
scholars among their graduates during this decade is even more dramatic
- 208 versus 15. (The odds of this happening by chance are truly
infinitesimal). Moreover, the top ten schools based on Ultimate ranking
have a slightly higher mean graduation rate and more winners of top
scholarships than schools chosen by - not only SATs, but any standard
metric including: grades, faculty resources, and financial resources.</p>

<p>This correlation between Ultimate and academics has previously been
obscured by the fact that there are no separate divisions in Ultimate,
so that smaller private universities are historically ranked together
with public institutions up to an order of magnitude larger. The pattern
emerges clearly when comparing, over an adequate time frame,
institutions of similar size and demographics (i.e. private national
universities). Study ranking is based simply on the total of Power
Rating points over the past ten years (assigned by the Ultimate Players
Association) for all of a school’s open-division club teams.</p>

<p>Ultimate is a largely student-run club sport with minimal institutional
support. Why a game, requiring such all-around athleticism should so
consistently be dominated by universities (and presumably students) with
off-the-chart academic credentials, is truly a mystery. The top seven
schools for ultimate have a mean graduation rate of 95% and nearly as
many total Rhodes and Marshal scholars as all of the rest combined. The
names speak for themselves: Stanford, Brown, Harvard, Tufts, Dartmouth,
Yale, and Princeton.</p>

<p>Dr. Norden is an associate professor in the department of Psychiatry and
Behavioral Sciences of the University of Washington and author of the
book Beyond Prozac (Harper Collin/1995). Jeremy Norden collaborated in
the study - he is a member of the world champion US National Juniors
Ultimate team.</p>

<p>September 11th, 2006 - Posted by solarkismet | Sports, Amusing, Data | No Comments</p>

<p>I knew that Seattle had a strong representation in ultimate-we know a family who has been playing for years in international competitions .I was surprised however to see that 12 of the players ( high school) in the USA junior national team, were from Seattle, most from the same private high school.
many of the players had only been playing for a couple years, something that would be pretty unusual in many other sports.
Its nice to see more sports become popular however- my D has recently taken up rugby and she really loves it- although she has played soccer for 8 years sometimes on more than one team, and played basketball for 5, she says it is "her favorite".
Its also becoming more represented at universities, which is nice because as they are trying to get teams going, that will give her a "hook" even if money isn't attached</p>

<p>My point is that if any potential college student wants to get some visibility by coaches out there who may have openings and maybe even scholarships, to sign up for the clearinghouse. Otherwise, they don't know you exist.</p>

<p>Sunshadow's suggestion is interesting, but may not apply to all athletes. My D, for example, spend a lot of time over the last couple years talking with D3 coaches at top LACs throughout the country. None of them suggested registering at the Clearinghouse, but all wanted her to fill our their forms (posted on their websites) providing information regarding her athletic ability and academic preparedness. </p>

<p>This may vary by sport, though. Individual sports, like track, swimming, and such, are a easier to compare based on simple numbers.</p>

<p>Agree with Californian (so what if I also live here???). Son is a Frosh at a D3 and, as a swimmer, has already made an A cut for NCAAs-but in this sport his times were easy to factor in; he never was asked about C-house (and we monitored the discussions as closely as discretion allowed).</p>

<p>Clearinghouse is more a tool for coaches to ensure academic eligibility. I think it is required for DI. I don't think coaches use it as much as a recruiting tool- at least that is not the impression we got during our son's recruiting process.</p>

<p>I think it is a little bit early for tapes etc. I'd look and see if there are some appropriate camps for the summer (I don't know the football scene well enough to suggest names). Get some good (not pollyannish) advice from somebody who is a good talent evaluator and then take another look at the situation after DS2's sophomore season.</p>