Attention: Prospective Art and Design students

<p>Here is the reason for this move. I will let you parents decide on its validity. It seems to me to be more of trying to benfit the city of Syracuse than the students. However, you decide.
Sandy, in response to your first question, the University concluded the purchase process for The Warehouse earlier this month and has already begun work on the structure. It is our intention to have all of the renovation work completed in time to begin moving faculty and staff, office equipment, classroom equipment and computers, etc. to The Warehouse in December in preparation for the start of spring semester classes in January. The basic structure will remain intact, so it will have a nice feel, and additional windows and interior amenities will be added. </p>

<p>Please note the potential for disruption to student learning because of construction is the principal reason why students, faculty and staff now working in Slocum Hall are being relocated while that building undergoes its renovation.</p>

<p>Regarding your second question, I believe you'll find the answer in this excerpt I have pulled from an article in the Spring 2005 issue of Syracuse University Magazine, which has just come out:</p>

<p>[School of Architecture Dean Mark] Robbins believes the downtown move is particularly appropriate for the architecture school, which will occupy the renovated West Fayette Street building for two to three years while Slocum Hall is renovated. “Architecture intersects with our daily life at literally every turn,” he says. “The earlier students can begin to learn about interacting with people who may be neighbors or clients, the better. Our obligation is to educate students as broadly as possible in a liberal arts tradition, in a history of ideas. When our students graduate and design buildings, those buildings will have more profound links to the city and the community—links that are based on an innovative, inventive understanding of the realities of culture and society.”</p>

<p>The building, now referred to as “The Warehouse,” is a 1920s concrete structure adjoining the city’s Armory Square district, one of the most vital, pedestrian-oriented areas of downtown Syracuse. The renovation project is consistent with the mission of the School of Architecture’s Upstate Institute, a newly created design think tank that will focus on rejuvenating the upstate New York region. Nationally prominent architects will be invited to collaborate. When renovated, The Warehouse will include design studios, classrooms, and faculty and administrative offices. As the project evolves, a street-level bookstore and café overlooking Onondaga Creek and gallery space are envisioned. “The building provides the ideal flexible space required for studio and gallery space,” Robbins says. “The industrial loft space mirrors the professional environment that architecture and design students will one day work in. The setting provides a unique, creative laboratory for our students—the future architects of our cities and neighborhoods.” The new facility will also encourage interdisciplinary work with VPA design students, who will have studios in the building. </p>

<p>Robbins acknowledges that several logistical considerations are inherent in this undertaking, but affirms that careful thought has been given to such issues as security, transportation, and making this a seamless transition for students. A shuttle-bus service from Main Campus will be in operation, class schedules will be adjusted to allow for travel time, and security will be provided for the building and parking lot. “There are definite challenges,” Robbins says. “But the benefits in terms of curricular enrichment are worth all the very real issues, which we will resolve. We have an exciting opportunity to make a real difference in the education of our students and their development as architects—and as citizens.”</p>

<p>Long-range plans for The Warehouse include a permanent home for the Upstate Institute, as well as residences for visiting artists and architects. “What is most important to me about the downtown space is that the University’s presence in the Syracuse community is now tangible, not simply symbolic,” says VPA Dean Carole Brzozowski ’81. “We can use this opportunity to collaborate with other arts organizations—as we have done in the past—but with the advantage of a physical presence.” Brzozowski is working with CRC director Leo Crandall to identify community partners who will share space within the facility. “I view our presence downtown as a chance to further develop mutually beneficial relationships with local arts organizations,” Brzozowski says. “These groups often provide our students with critical practical learning experiences, and if we can offer additional space for meetings, exhibitions, and rehearsals, the arts community as a whole can only grow stronger.”</p>

<p>The magazine's online version, with the complete article titled "Creative Connection," has not yet been posted but will be soon, found at <a href="http://sumagazine.syr.edu/%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://sumagazine.syr.edu/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Kevin</p>

<p>Kevin Morrow
University Spokesman
Executive Director, News Services
Syracuse University
(315) 443-3784</p>

<p>My letter to him:</p>

<p>Kevin, in addition to the bus schedule that you will be sending me, my wife raised two other questions, if I may:</p>

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<li><p>Will the Armory building, which will currently be used for Architecture, and some Design disciplines, have a lot of constructiona and remodeling going on while the kids are taking classes there? If so, this could be hugely disruptive to the kids.</p></li>
<li><p>You mention that there are tremendous educational benefits to this relocation. Frankly, all I see are negatives to the kids. However, maybe I don't know the whole story or am being too closeminded. Thus, what exactly are these tremendous benefits? Will the new building be getting all new computers and software and drafting tables? What are these benefits?</p></li>
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<p>Most of the commuincation design and architecture program will be in the armory section of Syracuse.</p>

<p>is that near the campus?</p>

<p>Wannagotocornell, It is about 2-3 miles away. I wouldn't say that it is within walking distance, especailly in the Winter, but it is about a 8- 10 minute bus trip.</p>

<p>I wanted to bump this so that everyone is aware of this situation. It isn't well publicized.</p>

<p>I wanted to bump this to ensure that VPA students are aware of this situation.</p>

<p>i thought you were going to gw???</p>

<p>Taxguy, if you are so mad at Syracuse for not giving your daughter the merit scholarship she deserves, why are you still posting here?</p>

<p>I second that!!....taxguy...you were so helpful about syracuse when we were all asking for your expert opinion.....c'mon...surely you have not changed that opinion entirely..</p>

<p>as a quick FYI, the armory square part of the city is really really nice. In the day, it's where all of the business men and women go to hang out and have lunch. I've been there a few times at night as well with no problem what so ever. In my opinion, if SU had to put the studio any place but on campus, this would have been the best option regardless (besides the mall).</p>

<p>Let me make this clear:I am NOT mad at Syracuse. I think that Syracuse is a fine school and has a very strong art program in particular.This post was started early last year! </p>

<p>I just want prospective art and design students to be aware of the situation. I have tried to present a balanced position by including letters from Syracuse about this situation. I am a firm believer that people should be given as much knowledge as possible before they make decisions. This busing policy definitely may have a significant impact for people; thus, they should be aware of the situation.</p>

<p>fingerscrossed & benandjerry:
What gives? Criticism is not necessary! Taxguy was probably posting as a response to my other posted question on this forum. I personally appreciate knowing about this beforhand, and wanted more input. My guess is that he was simply bringing up an older post that already covered the topic, and it is very appreciated. </p>

<p>Personally I feel it may have benefits to be located off-campus, but I think there are a lot of issues that should be considered. I had many studio courses WAAAY back in my college days. Many hours (early am hours) were spent in them. I was on a very safe campus, and happened to live across the street, so it was not a problem to go home at 3am -- or whenever. That will NOT be the case at Syracuse. It may be a fine place to be at lunchtime, but the transport issues are a royal pain for anyone in studio courses. </p>

<p>Syracuse has great programs, and as it stands now, we won't even consider it due to the satellite campus. I'd love to hear from anyone who is now living that life to see if we should reconsider.</p>

<p>Thanks, this information has been very helpful. With our decision down to this and Pratt, where our S is getting money and is his #1 choice, this may be the tipping point.</p>

<p>Jerxgrlmom, do you happen to know if a person dual enrolled in LSA/Newhouse school of communications will have trouble taking classes in the college of Visual Art and Design?</p>

<p>Faleene, it is very probable that duel majors may have trouble attending some classes. You would need to speak to an advisor about this. Of course, you first have to enroll in Syracuse to see if the busing situation to the warehouse district will be a problem for duel majors, which is a Catch 22.</p>

<p>We were told by some students that there's a lot of bad blood (politics) between Newhouse and Art/Design and it's hard to get permission to take courses from the other school. My d would have been a comm design major or adv design major but wanted to take some classes in Newhouse. Even the Admin person admitted this was true. - Probably easier if admitted to Newhouse & wanted to take design classes than the other way around.</p>