<p>Oh, this thread made me :D. </p>
<p>Why does anyone care? The sky is still blue, isn’t it?</p>
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Actually, there is a high correlation between IQ and income. Here: <a href=“http://www.aei.org/docLib/20040302_book443.pdf[/url]”>http://www.aei.org/docLib/20040302_book443.pdf</a></p>
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Anectdotal evidence is not very reliable.</p>
<p>^It’s much too hot to read that report.</p>
<p>Yeah I know I didn’t even look at it, I just googled and copied the link that showed up.</p>
<p>^Haha, I actually have been reading it. It’s quite enjoyable. :)</p>
<p>i know some very rich people with very average IQ/SAT… Test scores can’t calculate income.</p>
<p>The art of business can’t be captured in a ridiculous test (SAT) that measures one’s ability to interpret convoluted math questions that really, under the surface, are trivial problems when compared to tests like US(J)MO.</p>
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<p>Even if IQ and income weren’t highly correlated, then maybe the art of intelligence can’t be captured in the ridiculous business world where charisma and good looks get you way too far?</p>
<p>Any test can’t measure success in the world of business. Success just isn’t quantifiable. You just can’t put a number on it. Sorry. By the way being very attractive does help landing a job.</p>
<p>Many of these posts tend to sway to each side, but like many other people here- (I believe) one’s IQ and SAT score greatly does correlate with each other. The correlation is probably not as consistent as it was in the prior years, but that doesn’t factor it out. IQ simply measures ones cognitive ability; and their mentality. Your IQ is innate- it isn’t something that one can go and ‘study for’ and improve upon multiple tests. However obviously an SAT score can improve GREATLY- for many different reasons; such as studying/mental preparation, how one is feeling on the test day, etc. I tend to start drifting all the time when I take tests, and usually start filling in random answers for the heck of it, with no initial thought. Thus, my (PSAT) score last year was remarkably lower than the average score here on CC. But even drawing to that conclusion is skewed- I may not be an excellent test taker (usually pertaining to multiple choice questions) but my cognitive level is also probably lower as well. Then again, that may not also be true. In the end though, an IQ test has very little relevance to a person’s outcome in life; how far they succeed, and so forth. I believe the drive that a person contains is what truly matters.</p>
<p>A good online article about IQ testing: </p>
<p>[Beyond</a> the Flynn Effect, a lecture by Professor James Flynn](<a href=“http://www.psychometrics.ppsis.cam.ac.uk/page/109/beyond-the-flynn-effect.htm]Beyond”>http://www.psychometrics.ppsis.cam.ac.uk/page/109/beyond-the-flynn-effect.htm)</p>
<p>You don’t have to be a genius to make a few million bucks. You just have to know the game.</p>
<p>IQ is not a reliable way of determining academic success or intelligence. One boy in my school is arguably the smartest person there, but has (according to him) a relatively average IQ.
And 140-150?! Are you serious? They’re Harvard students. They aren’t geniuses. That’s an absolutely outrageous guess.</p>
<p>Lol, there is a huge variation in intelligence in Harvard students. Average wise, I think Harvard students are far below other schools, like Caltech and MIT. Granted, they are usually more well rounded (I don’t know if this is the case compare to MIT and its student body recently). The smartest of Harvard students are really smart, hi IQ type. They tend to be those who win gold medals on IMO, IPho, Ichem and win Siemens/Intel stuffs and you can consider then geniuses/near geniuses. Whoeverone started this thread should know that. The recruited atheletes and “development cases” usually fall at the bottom at intellect. That being said, I do not want to make a stereotype. There certainly are exceptions, but to cut to the point, there is a high variation in IQ/intellect at Harvard. The the committee of admission is to shape up ppl who are talented in many different stuffs, but not just plain smart/genius IQ.
Averagewise, I think Caltech has the highest IQ students (not because they have hi SAT, but rather, theyre amazing science students), and this also deals with the school’s recruiting philosophies. At other schools, including MIT, the IQ deviation is rather high.</p>
<p>^ You seem to have a math/science bias.</p>
<p>Yup ^^, but if you look at it, it seems quite true</p>
<p>^ Look at what?</p>
<p>There is no need to guess about what it might be. This has been studied empirically–and the average IQ of a Harvard student is roughly 130. A psychologist at Harvard ran a serious experiment that involved IQ testing a few years ago, and his test subjects understandably were Harvard students. The sample size was 182. Though I can’t find the link to the study, this article form the Harvard Gazette, a reputable publication not run by students, mentions it: [Harvard</a> Gazette: Creativity tied to mental illness](<a href=“http://www.news.harvard.edu/gazette/2003/10.23/01-creativity.html]Harvard”>The links between creativity, intelligence, and mental illness – Harvard Gazette)</p>
<p>^ Thanks a lot.</p>
<p>^ ^ The reported study was interesting. I remember a criticism of the study was that it used a subset of subtests from a full-length IQ test (not a validated procedure) rather than a brief IQ test (of which there are a few currently normed, validated brands) to do the testing. Like most studies of this kind, there may be many [issues</a> to consider](<a href=“http://norvig.com/experiment-design.html]issues”>http://norvig.com/experiment-design.html) when interpreting the study results.</p>
<p>Well thanks to affirmative action the IQ average is brought wayyy down.</p>