Bad News for those Students thinking Cal State System Schools were your Safeties

<p>BofGal, URM is underrepresented minority. It wasn’t long ago that CSU San Marcos was a small under enrolled school. Now, with SDSU impacted, San Marcos is, too. It won’t be long before Monterey and CI catch up.</p>

<p>I just checked another local CSU that doesn’t appear in these threads very much - CSU San Marcos (in northern San Diego County) to see how they might be impacted. CSUSM is I think the newest CSU in the state or at least one of the newest ones. They are also impacted -</p>

<p>They state that they’ll accept all applicants from the service area who meet CSU requirements which are:

However, they also state that these requirements as well as deadlines will be strictly enforced this year (implying it might not have been so strict before).</p>

<p>For applicants outside the service area they state:</p>

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BfloGal:
Figure out the CSU whose service area you’re in and then check to see what restrictions they have in place. There seems to be a fairly prominent statement from the campus on the subject on the college’s home page. Many of the CSUs will still accept all applicants in their service area who meet the minimum CSU requirements as I posted above for CSU-SM. If your service area CSU isn’t one of the ones still accepting all local CSU qualified applicants, then that should be a good safety if your kid meets the requirements. He could then also apply to all the other colleges he’s interested in to give him choices.</p>

<p>Most CSUs will be commuter schools to a fair extent but some are less so that others (SDSU for example). Even CSU-SM has some dorms but I expect that most of the attendees are commuters.</p>

<p>Humboldt does not appear to be an impacted campus. (See [CSU</a> Impacted Campuses and Programs | Student Academic Support | CSU](<a href=“http://www.calstate.edu/sas/impactioninfo.shtml]CSU”>http://www.calstate.edu/sas/impactioninfo.shtml) )</p>

<p>It’s also a beautiful, residential campus located in a stunningly beautiful area of the state. </p>

<p>The campus has been hurt by financial cutbacks over the past several years, which is reflected in reduced faculty & course availability. So there’s no escaping the California budget problem – see [University</a> Budget Office ? Humboldt State University](<a href=“http://www.humboldt.edu/~budget/]University”>http://www.humboldt.edu/~budget/)</p>

<p>My son’s school told us we were local for Sonoma, but I can’t seem to verify anywhere. It seems we are local for “Maritime”, but that 's a specialized school, so it can’t just be that one. I did find this</p>

<p>“We have 23 campuses in the CSU,” Rhodes explains. “SSU is one of four or five that gets more entering students from outside the service area than from inside.” The university gets 19 percent of incoming freshman from within its own service area and 81 percent from outside."</p>

<p>left stuff out …then</p>

<p>"This small, local pool of eligible candidates requires SSU to recruit students from out of the area. “We can talk all this intellectual and philosophical ********, but you have to have real people here,” Rhodes says. “We’re not going to fill our 1,600 to 2,000 freshman slots with people from our local service area.” </p>

<p>It mentions six counties. Anyone know how I can find out which ones?</p>

<p>here</p>

<p>[Metroactive</a> | Music, Clubs, Movies, Events, News | San Jose, CA](<a href=“http://www.bohemian.com/bohemian/02.18.09/news-0907.html...dated]Metroactive”>http://www.bohemian.com/bohemian/02.18.09/news-0907.html...dated) Feb 09. Not to drag this off topic, but any insights would be welcome.</p>

<p>I agree with Calmom about CSU Monterey Bay and CSU Humboldt. I’ve been to CSU Monterey Bay many times, because Fang Jr used to have roller hockey tournaments just next door. Don’t be envisioning Carmel-- CSUMB is a good distance from the beach on the other side of the freeway, isolated in the rolling hills north of the Monterey Peninsula. It’s not an unattractive area, but visit before enrolling.</p>

<p>CSU Humboldt is right in the small, hippyish city of Arcata, on Humboldt Bay. It is indeed a gorgeous area of California. I biked through the area three weeks ago, taking a needed rest day at a campground just south of there, and both times my friend and I stopped in Arcata it seemed a town bustling with outdoorsy students and businesses catering to them.</p>

<p>shrinkwrap:</p>

<p>SSU has a current ppt which identifies the local counties in the service area and gpa’s required for impacted majors. Good luck.</p>

<p>[Fall</a> 2009 Conference Materials | Student Academic Support | CSU](<a href=“http://www.calstate.edu/sas/conferences/2009/index.shtml]Fall”>http://www.calstate.edu/sas/conferences/2009/index.shtml)</p>

<p>I just found this link of a recent CSU press release. It says in the first two weeks, from 10/1-10/15, freshmen apps to CSU’s are double what they were last year and triple for transfer students. The message is apply early, apply to the local CSU, and apply to other colleges outside the CSU system. </p>

<p>[CSU</a> | Public Affairs](<a href=“http://www.calstate.edu/PA/News/2009/priority-app-story3.shtml]CSU”>http://www.calstate.edu/PA/News/2009/priority-app-story3.shtml)</p>

<p>The SSU powerpoint presentation linked by bluebayou shows priority counties for transfer students but I’m not sure if this applies to freshman applicants as well. My opinion after reading these posts and doing my own research, is that each CSU is going to set its own criteria about how to handle the influx of apps. If you look at the SJSU powerpoint from bluebayou’s link, it is more specific about acceptance criteria for fall 2010 than SSU’s.</p>

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<p>Not really a safety, perhaps more a match depending on your son’s GPA, but your son might consider University of the Pacific.</p>

<p>bluebayou; Thanks!</p>

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<p>The CCs are also staggering under the weight of budget cuts. Part of the CSUs’ problem is that in addition to the downward pressure from the UCs, they are getting upward pressure from the CCs, which cannot handle the load they are being asked to bear. They are turning students away in droves from general-ed classes, the very classes which students need in order to transfer to a CSU/UC. Adding a BA program would require funding, and California is simply out of money right now. </p>

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<p>The K-12 budget is completely separate from the Higher Education budget, which includes the UCs and the CSUs as well as the community colleges. Education at all levels is suffering badly out here, from pre-K all the way through post-secondary.</p>

<p>Blue I totally agree with you. Actually, maybe the rise in academic requirements for CSU’s may not turn out to be a bad thing. Some kids with less than a 3.0 thrive in college, but most struggle and many drop or flunk out be it for whatever reason. Many kids don’t understand the importance of grades from the 9th (Cal Poly for example) and especially the 10th grade. It is hard for them to look beyond today, let alone plan for college which is 3 years out. I have seen this many times, by the time the 2nd semester of the Junior year rolls around, the kids takes a look at their transcript and regret that they didn’t try harder. It is a hard lesson to learn but as you know, some kids won’t listen to us as parents.</p>

<p>“Some kids with less than a 3.0 thrive in college, but most struggle and many drop or flunk out be it for whatever reason.”</p>

<p>Is that part of a study or something? Do you have a link?</p>

<p>“Some kids with less than a 3.0 thrive in college, but most struggle and many drop or flunk out be it for whatever reason.”</p>

<p>God I hope that’s not true! I agree with shrinkrap-- need to see the data.</p>

<p>Re CSU Humboldt-- I’ve heard drugs are a huge problem there. Not that others schools are drug free, but I get the impression it’s more of a problem there. Anyone heard anything?</p>

<p>No firm data, but I certainly got the impression there was a lot of dope smoking in the Humboldt area. I didn’t see or smell anyone smoking in the short time I was visiting the area, but someone offered my touring partner some weed, and someone else had a dog named “Cannabis,” so marijuana is obviously not something generally frowned on there.</p>

<p>A friend’s S didn’t take HS very seriously and didn’t have the stats to apply to state schools. He did 2 yrs at a cc (with the intention of transferring) where he thrived. He was on the dean’s list for 2 years and then transferred to a top school as biochem major and plans to go to med school. Some would call him a late bloomer, I call him a normal kid. Three of his friends did the same and are also at top schools. CCs offered them an opportunity to mature and develop their study/organizational skills. After talking to my friend today, I have a different view of cc’s.</p>

<p>Hi BfloGal, </p>

<p>I hope you reconsider applying to Cal State East Bay (CSUEB). Your impression of our campus might be different if you took a look at our Website - [Prospective</a> Students Home Page](<a href=“Future Students - Cal State East Bay”>Future Students - Cal State East Bay). </p>

<p>Princeton Review has selected Cal State East Bay as a “Best in the West” college for six consecutive years. </p>

<p>CSUEB is also considered a national model for Freshmen Learning Communities and was cited as a “top–tier” institution among master’s–granting universities in the West by the U.S. News & World Report’s annual “America’s Best Colleges” guide. </p>

<p>I’m also happy to say we are definitely not a commuter-only campus. More than 1,200 students live on our campus in our brand new Pioneer Heights residence calls. Many of our on-campus residents are freshmen and students from Southern California and out-of-state. And for the students who are not living on campus, there are many apartment complexes around campus for an off-campus living option. </p>

<p>You might want to take a look at our virtual campus tour at [CSUEB</a> Virtual Tour](<a href=“http://www20.csueastbay.edu/ua/virtual-tour/index.html]CSUEB”>http://www20.csueastbay.edu/ua/virtual-tour/index.html) to see our campus for yourself. It’s located high in the Hayward Hills with a beautiful panoramic view of San Francisco Bay. </p>

<p>I’d be pleased to give you a personal tour. Please feel free to call me at 510.885.2030.</p>

<p>Sincerely, India Christman
Cal State East Bay’s Office of Admission
Go Pioneers!</p>

<p>^^India:</p>

<p>I have friends/relatives who graduated from Cal State HAYWARD – they refuse to accept the rebranding. hahahahaha</p>

<p>^
I also like CSU Hayward better! All other UC/CSU campus use the city name, it tells you where the campus is. Disclaim: I’m NOT a CSU Hayward alum.</p>