No going to Cal Baptist
I am pretty sure that the academic status of Baylor has nothing to do with the football team. If that is anyone’s reason for attending a specific college, then you are wasting your money.
A new suit with reports that victims and even a woman reporting an assault on someone else were punished for drinking. Sounds a lot like the BYU cases. http://bigstory.ap.org/article/637603d2ff6341e39161726ceb66aaa6/baylors-strict-conduct-code-may-have-silenced-rape-victims
This ordeal won’t be resolved for years. As long as you don’t mind a huge cloud over Baylor’s head, Baylor will try to make the college experience as “back to normal” as possible while amping up Title IX requirements.
If your kids aren’t athletes or interested in dating/partying/drinking off campus with athletes, it shouldn’t be an issue. It seems that in 99.99% of these cases in all colleges are related to athletes and athletic admins, thankfully not a mainstream issue. If anything, these incidents are working as cautionary tales for rest of the students and staff.
Unfortunately with the scope and publicity behind this it will be woven into the University at some level especially when full report has yet to be released, the DA being on the hunt for the report, and assistant coaches and perhaps others who had knowledge that are still employed including Ken Starr as a law professor. If they had just cleaned house completely it would be much easier to move forward.
I agree but this being the biggest story, board is going to be on guard. Probably much safer than schools where stories are still under the rug. It is happening everywhere from Stanford to community colleges, it needs to be addressed everywhere. Baylor students are lucky that Kenneth Star’s celebrity status and team’s fame brought this to light and university has no choice but to make sure that things change for better.
Yes they know parents have to be reassured or the kids aren’t going to come. It will be interesting to see how Baylor’s yield (Number of students who enroll who have been accepted) is this year compared to previous years. The regents and administration not handling things properly (along with football and athletic department) contributed to my son declining is acceptance.
Any parent sending their child to Baylor who believes for one second that it is an oasis of Christianity is sorely mistaken. Baylor is a good school but like every other school (especially those with a huge football culture) it DOES and WILL have issues. I know parents with their heads stuck so far into the cloud of Christianity that they don’t stop and think for a minute that their kids would ever GASP be exposed to such things! You just have to be realistic.
I think it is a good thing that all this has come to light. I still hold a bit of a grudge against my friends whose only response is they feel bad for their alma mater…but don’t ever acknowledge what was done to these girls and how their beloved alma mater covered it up.
If you send your child to a Christian school (or any school) that has a major football program and/or a big Greek system presence in which off campus activities will be a major influence/distraction, it’s buyer beware.
I’ve posted this before here on CC. This book is out of print now but I would recommend looking it up at your local library. The author describes McGill University on Montréal, where the drinking age is 18, as an example of a school with minimal alcohol problems (and minimal athletics and Greek life).
The reality with the number if drunk driving deaths for under 21 year old drivers the drinking age in this country will never be reduced. It was 18 in Hawaii until 1986 until it went up to 21.
The National Minimum Drinking Age Act of 1984 (23 U.S.C. § 158) was passed on July 17, 1984.[1][2][3] It was a controversial bill that punished every state that allowed persons below 21 years to purchase and publicly possess alcoholic beverages by reducing its annual federal highway apportionment by ten percent. The law was later amended, lowering the penalty to eight percent from fiscal year 2012 and beyond.[4]
Despite its name, this act did not outlaw the consumption of alcoholic beverages by those under 21 years of age, just its purchase. However, Alabama, Indiana, Kansas, Michigan, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, and Vermont, and the District of Columbia extended the law into an outright ban. The minimum purchase and drinking ages is a state law, and most states still permit “underage” consumption of alcohol in some circumstances. In some states, no restriction on private consumption is made, while in others, consumption is only allowed in specific locations, in the presence of consenting and supervising family members as in the states of Colorado, Maryland, Montana, New York, Texas, West Virginia, Washington, Wisconsin, and Wyoming.
Baylor campus is quite tight, all of the incidents happened off campus, unlike Stanford where it was happening on campus. Not much diffrence as kids everywhere are doing it but at least for kids who don’t want to get involved with this, Baylor campus is a safe place.
“The reality with the number if drunk driving deaths for under 21 year old drivers the drinking age in this country will never be reduced. It was 18 in Hawaii until 1986 until it went up to 21.”
Drunk driving harm clearly declined after the drinking age was raised to 21 in the U.S.
Interestingly, Canada also experienced a similar decline in drunk driving harm over the same period even though it maintained its 19 drinking age…
However the ethical leadership of a Christian campus aka the Board of Regents is certainly up for serious debate and discussion.
In Canada the drinking age is 18 in some provinces, including Quebec.
@Baylorpoly can you please cite where you got the information in post #132? It looks like it was copied directly from a web site.
Thx
@"Erin’s Dad the text is identical to the first 1.5 paragraphs of the Wikipedia page about the National Minimum Drinking Age Act.
And Kenneth Starr is out… resigns and “severs school ties”