<p>Redhare, while last year's pre-admit class had stats similar to Stern, the admit rate is far lower than Stern. So, you have a much better chance of getting into Stern than as a Ross pre-admit. Ross also places a lot of emphasis on the essay and other things besides GPA and standardized test score, which means they turn away quite a few applicants with high basic stats. In addition, Ross has said they expect more pre-admit applications this year and will keep the number of spots constant in the low 60's... meaning last year's 16% admit rate will decline. Also, with the ban on AA combined with more apps, you will see the admit rate decline and the quality of the pre-admit student increase. Although the pre-admits aren't quite at the Ivy "crapshoot" level because of the tremendous quality of the applicant pool, they are closer to the Ivies than to Stern as far as your chances of getting in.</p>
<p>Yes, but remember that if you're rejected as a pre-admit, you can still get into the LSA. If you're rejected from Stern, you're rejected from NYU. So a Michigan pre-admit has another chance to get into Ross, while the Stern reject cannot. </p>
<p>I was just suggesting that the student bodies are roughly equivalent, and I bet comparable to ivy kids as well.</p>
<p>a friend of mine, who was a freshman last year at umich applied to ross, but also applied to georgetown's b-school just in case he got rejected.</p>
<p>it turned out that he got rejected from ross and and got into g-town, and he's there right now. i guess that could be another option.. haha :]</p>
<p>Redhare, I agree the student bodies of Ross and Stern are roughly equivalent. I'm anxious to see if Ross starts to pull ahead with the new B-School and increased applicant pool.</p>
<p>I wish Michigan would accept the majority of its students directly from high school yet leave a decent number of spots open for Michigan sophomores. Cornell does something like this, but also likes to leave room to admit a fair number of transfers from other schools.</p>
<p>I think they should just do a 4-year program and have everyone apply from HS.</p>
<p>so i have one other question about the BBA. how is the international business program? is there even a major for it?</p>
<p>MattEisn, the International Business Program is ranked #3 according to USNews. Ross does not have majors in particular areas... just the BBA. However, students who have taken 3 or more classes at the 300+ level in one discipline may indicate an "emphasis" in that area on their resumes.</p>
<p>yes.. i agree redhare. 4 year program just like wharton would be awesome.</p>
<p>matteisn, there really isn't any majors available at ross. if you take like 3+ classes in like marketing, you can put on your resume that you have a marketing 'emphasis', but that's about it.</p>
<p>Also note that Ross does NOT have the best study abroad options compared to schools like NYU or even Michigan's LSA.</p>
<p>first of all, i would like to thank everyone (paticularly redhare, forgiven, and anhydrosis) who wrote in this thread, it has really given me a good idea of what ross is like. the only other question i have is who gets rejected from this. I have seen the stats for acceptances. does anyone know anyone who got rejected from the pre-admit and what there stats were? Also, does getting rejected from pre-admit hurt you if you apply again?</p>
<p>I don't know any pre-admit applicants, but I do know some freshman applicants last year who were rejected. Some had excellent grades in ACC 271, ECON 401, and MATH 215+ (which are beyond the prerequisites) and had solid 3.8+ GPAs, but they didn't make it. Perhaps they had no ECs, or their essays were cliche. Try to make yourself look unique.</p>
<p>It does not hurt to apply again. Your rejection as a pre-admit has no influence on admissions the following year.</p>
<p>I believe what redhare said about qualified applicants being rejected as Michigan freshmen is even more true about the pre-admits. I had somewhat above average stats for the pre-admit accepted pool, but I know people with better standardized test scores who were rejected. The pre-admit process seems to place a lot of emphasis on ECs and even more on the essay.</p>
<p>yes.. i agree.</p>
<p>EC's and essays are the difference maker. everybody has great stats for the most part.</p>
<p>Hey guys, here is a link to check out if you have questions about the admissions of the BBA program. </p>
<p>[U</a> of M Ross School of Business Admission Guide (BBA) - Ann Arbor, MI](<a href=“http://www.townme.com/ann-arbor-mi/Getting-into-the-ross-school-of-business]U”>http://www.townme.com/ann-arbor-mi/Getting-into-the-ross-school-of-business)</p>