I have started a new thread so we can get actual examples of schools
Correct. Admin rate and yield are not a factor in USNews’ ranking.
Not gonna happen since the ‘prestige’ factor is primarily based on grad program rankings, and as a school that is primarily undergrads, i.e., fewer grad programs than competitors, BC takes a hit here. OTOH, my bet is that the new Eng program will help achieve higher test scores as well as with prestige of math & physical science programs.
I suspect the ED1 pool will have lower stats, as they’d include the recruited athletes and unhooked low to medium stat apps looking for a significant boost. However, my guess is that BC will see higher stats in ED2 than ED1. The hard part for the school may be not knowing what the ED2 pool looks like before making ED1 decisions.
BC historically has deferred 30-40% from EA/REA and may do something similar with ED; maybe they’ll defer more from ED1. With what they’ve said about app number projections, it sounds like they don’t think the process will be very different, just that they’ll have fewer to review early.
I’ll be interested to hear more details about the engineering program as they emerge, especially the logistics of attracting students while needing to get accredited. (I have at least one potential class of 2025 kid who may be looking for engineering programs and it sounds like that is the earliest possible class for the new program.)
How has Nova’s implementation of ED affected its stats? I presume this would give some insights into what can be expected for BC?
Nova kept EA and does not have ED2
By glancing at the common data sets ACT stayed the same while SAT increased but that has to do with new SAT changes as well. They received 688 ED apps. I do not know how many ED apps they received this year (second year of ED). I was looking at Northeastern ED numbers and the 17-18 year they received less than 1000 ED apps (together 1 and 2) but someone posted that this year they received closer to 1500 apps. So it takes some time to increase the ED pool.
You could also look at Holy Cross, Providence College and Fairfield U to see how they have utilized ED as Jesuit Institutions.
“I was looking at Northeastern ED numbers and the 17-18 year they received less than 1000 ED apps (together 1 and 2) but someone posted that this year they received closer to 1500 apps. So it takes some time to increase the ED pool.”
But northeastern kept EA, so not the same.
Also, Providence and Fairfield still have EA. HC is a good comparison, although they are test optional so the lower scoring kids omit.
(Providence isn’t Jesuit…)
c’mon @xhaavic really? LOL. Ok, “religious” then. I mean there are actually real Friars or whatever they’re called walking around campus. It’s a pretty Catholic place, similar to BC. I know it’s not considered to be as strong academically as BC, I just wanted to point out a few Jesuit schools are offering ED now.
From what I understand , Jesuit schools are still tied to the Catholic Church. They’re expected to adhere to basic Catholic principles and answer to the local bishop.
Catholic yes, but the Jesuits have their own organization, which is comprised of Provinces. They do not report to the local Catholic bishop.
https://jesuits.org/aboutus?PAGE=DTN-20130520123642
I did some googling on HC, and it appears that the acceptance rate of their ED apps is (was) near 80%! I’d have to believe that Fairfield would be similar, if not more, given that Fairfield’s overall (ED+RD) acceptance rate is 61%.
Point being, not really comparable.
Fairfield’s ED rate was 81%
@bluebayou my point was actually to point out that there are some “ holy” schools that offer ED, and some of you were considering this “unholy” I guess. I did add that I knew that PC/Fairfield weren’t considered as selective as BC.
It appears BC wants to improve yield, maybe get some better high stats candidates that really want to attend the school locked in during the ED round. I don’t see anything wrong with that, especially if they offer decent financial aid to needy ED applicants. They can also lock in a certain percentage of high stats full pay kids, whose tuition can be used to offset the need of those applying for aid.
I have no dog in this fight, neither of my kids will be attending BC. I’m just familiar with the school and the types of applicants it attracts.
Yup, you’re right RightCoaster, I was just being a fool Providence indeed does share similar dynamics to both BC and HC. It’s a great school!