<p>My d is one and done. She made 3 OV’s and finally decided to apply EA to her number 1 choice. Last week She got a call from the coach that She is in.
Now it’s time to figure out how to pay for it :-)</p>
<p>This is probably as good a place as any to float this idea: maybe we should start a thread of LLs and acceptances and ask the mods to “sticky” it. I don’t recall a thread like that in this forum last year, but it would be nice, and it would be especially nice if some of the stronger academic stats were posted to deter and repel the athlete haters and tomato throwers that happen along. Any thoughts on this?</p>
<p>congrats soccermomz and cc1979! And cc - ugh! - on the how to pay for it part. I’ll see you on line to cash our paychecks when we’re in our 90s! ;-)</p>
<p>still waiting here - daughter being dropped at the airport in a little while; keeping my fingers crossed for a good weekend! and still no word from the coach of the other school she liked. Hopefully lots of news to post this upcoming week.</p>
<p>I am jealous of you guys–it was such an exciting time and I can’t believe it’s been a year now since we were in your shoes. Best wishes to all of you and your athletes. I hope the kids all end up at the best school for them!</p>
<p>I second sherpa’s idea. I really hate the stereotypes of the dumb recruited (especially Ivy) athlete. At my school, which sends about 10 people to HYP every year and even more to the other Ivies, there is an especially large resentment against the recruited Ivy athletes. The resentment is particularly high among the applicants who are the people you would consider the traditional academic overachievers (not using this term derogatorily). They don’t realize that you’re grades need to be good as well to get recruited to an Ivy. It would be really nice to show that a lot of the time exceptional athletes are also exceptional students. </p>
<p>I’ve been lurking this forum for a while, but this topic really got me fired up. It’s nice to see that there are other fencers/fencing parents on this forum also, since our sport is a lot smaller.</p>
<p>I would start a thread with LL/ED decisions and stats, but I dont have my LL in hand yet. Those of you who do have your LL should start one though. I would appreciate it and would definitely post my stats once my LL is in hand.</p>
<p>GFG exciting in retrospect! It’s not a whole lot of fun while you’re going through it although the highs can be kind of exciting :-)</p>
<p>Right now we’re just sweating out this OV weekend at the hopeful #1 - she already heard she will be getting a scholarship offer. But it’s hard to get information through texting, and I was grilling her (trying to be sure she likes the school and not the affordability only) and she got mad at me 
… today I am not texting all day but I’ll check in around dinnertime. But so far, she was having a good time. After today (and tonight - the telltale Saturday night activity has already turned her off of one school!) she should have a clearer idea.</p>
<p>Also, she applied early action so we don’t know what the merit aid possibilities might be, or how they might affect her athletic offer. And this is a large university with an honors college, so I would imagine she has to wait till mid-December to find out if she has gotten into that? I think they take the top 10% and she could be close, but their applicant pool has been getting stronger and stronger every year.</p>
<p>And it isn’t like she has a choice just yet … still not a word from the school she loved last weekend. Although I think she left her laptop at home, since she was flying and didn’t want to have to carry too many things. So she probably hasn’t checked her email. Although, if it were really good news I would expect a phone call. Sigh. </p>
<p>And still no more wine in the house! Thank goodness for cc.</p>
<p>S is on his first OV this weekend. Not the top academically but very popular in our area. Still a decent LAC. What should we expect from this visit? No aid has been discussed. One unofficial visit was made & the coach has called about 3-4 times. Will the coach bring that up to him if an athletic scholarship will be offered?</p>
<p>thrower is it D1 or 2? My daughter is on her 4th. All of the coaches have met with her and most have brought up the prospect of aid. So far nothing concrete has come of any, but the one she is on now is her top choice and the coach told her he was interested. This is the first time it’s been like that for her, although she’s been offered spots on the other teams, just without any aid (although we’re still waiting on one other).</p>
<p>Hope he is having fun! I think what to expect depends on the sport, the school, and the coach. That’s how it seems to me. Although it’s getting closer to November, so they can be more open as far as what they have to offer as the signing time draws near, as do the ED deadlines!</p>
<p>Thanks wilberry. His sport is track. He has 2 other schools who have mentioned OV, 1who mailed “recruiting weekend info”. He called it an OV, but said he couldn’t pay for transportation. Not a big deal, as I would drive him anyway. Both are above him academically as far as grades & scores go. Pretty sure they would accept him, grades are not that far away. Told S to contact coaches expressing interest. He is a Football player so he was waiting for his season to end. Now that it is just about over, I guess it’s really time to get moving!</p>
<p>My son is being recruited in 2 sports, and being told he is the “top prospect” in each sport at different schools. His decision-making process is multiplied, as there are no overlap schools! Also, his favored sport is not NCAA and therefore not bound by their rules. 75% of the info on this forum only applies to one of his sports, so we’re always scrambling for info!</p>
<p>No LL for him, as he isn’t aiming at the Ivies - he prefers to stay in the Southeast, and his favored sport is only club in that league anyway. Of the schools on his list(s) we do have a written scholarship offer from one (leaving us owing $10m a year, but this is before filing the FAFSA obviously) and verbals from 4+ others, although without $$ amounts.</p>
<p>At what point in this process do you typically start discussing specific money matters? We cannot afford any of the schools without significant assistance, be it academic or athletic money. He is simultaneously trying to appear interested in his top schools while not getting his hopes up. It’s a juggling act for him and sometimes I feel sorry that he feels he can’t approach this with his normal enthusiasm. Any ideas?</p>
<p>Your situation is different, of course, but we started talking money before accepting official visit offers. We saw no point in our D wasting one of her 5 official visits on a school we couldn’t afford. Ivies and non-Ivies alike gave her financial aid pre-reads in August or early September of senior year, and based on the results and other relevant factors, she made up her list of 5. Can you ask for pre-reads too? At the very least, you might be able to plug your numbers into the school’s financial aid calculator, or into the FAFSA to get a sense of what to expect from normal funding sources, and then ask the coach what might be available to your student in addition to that.</p>
<p>We did the same thing. No reason to waste an OV on a school your athlete may fall in love with and then not be able to afford.</p>
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<p>Holy cow that’s an expensive school! :)</p>
<p>^^probably not as expensive as you think.</p>
<p>Our DD has scholarships that cover tuition and fees, leaving $10K a year for us to cover room and board - at a D1 OOS public. If we were in-state, our share would still be around $5K. And FWIW, DD had one of the best scholarship offers of the athletes graduating from her HS (of course, we do not qualify for FA and others might, but the poster was referencing costs before FA).</p>
<p>MereMom - I think Wiggle was making fun of my use of “m” to denote 1,000. It is actually correct, though, as is “k”. In my industry, “m” usually refers to 1,000 and “mm” to 1,000,000.</p>
<p>And I agree, a $10,000 per year deficit would not be insurmountable, except I’m not willing to go into that much debt, or let my son, for this particular school. It’s a small, local Tier 4 private. We could be full pay at the local directional U for practically the same amount and the academics/athletics are very similar. Not worth it in my book, and we told the coach as much. Last we heard from a current team member, the coach has gone back to the AD for more $$. We’ll see.</p>
<p>@JCC: You raise a couple of issues:</p>
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<li><p>Two potential sports: We were in a similar situation, so I understand the juggling and keeping straight the different sports/colleges/coaches. Your kid had to decide which sport to pursue at what level, which led to D1 Ivies (but not state school) for one sport and DIII LAC for the other sport. You say that your son’s favored sport is club level in one league. Is that the challenge level he wants to compete on? Or would he rather compete at a higher level (maybe in the other sport)? Which sport does he prefer? Which team/coach does he like better? How much time is spent on training/academics? Since he is the top prospect, questions like playing time probably won’t be an issue, but where would he fit into the team? Another issue is that club level sports usually don’t get the kind of support/funding as other sports. Do the athletes have to fundraise, can they travel to events, etc.? Also, frequently, admission won’t support club level sports. Is coach’s support a factor in admission?</p></li>
<li><p>Which school would he prefer if he didn’t do any sport?</p></li>
<li><p>You should ask for financial pre-reads and, if the college offers athletic scholarships, discuss with the coach how much they can offer. If financial aid is better at the other schools, mention that. If they want your kid, they may find more money.</p></li>
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<p>(As aside: Even though a sport is not NCAA, many colleges will follow the NCAA and their league rules, even for non-NCAA sports.)</p>
<p>Good luck!</p>
<p>Beenthere2 - thanks for the thoughtful response. Although my son is quite capable (in my unbiased opinion :o) of gaining admission to ‘virtually’ any school (3.8 UGPA 34 ACT) he is, unfortunately, quite attached to the Southeast.</p>
<p>His #2 sport is swimming, While he is good and will likely make finals at state/break a couple of school records, he isn’t Auburn or Kenyon good. He is the #1 prospect at a few schools in the SE. He’s attracted the attention of coaches at some schools like Vassar and Swarthmore, but I can’t get him to look outside his geographic comfort-zone. </p>
<p>His #1 and favorite sport is cycling, which is varsity at only a handful of lesser-known schools. He is good on a national level in this sport (like top-20ish) and has/will be receiving scholarship offers to the majority of those schools. At the collegiate level the sport is administered by USA Cycling and has no relationship with the NCAA whatsoever.</p>
<p>We are well aware of the support club level sports receive. His top choice school with club-only cycling is Furman, and this would be an excellent school for him. I don’t believe my son would need a coach’s support in order to be admitted.
The club is very well-supported, and all athletic expenses are paid, i.e. travel, entries, etc.
Unfortunately that support does not extend to tuition, etc. At $46m a pop, this school is likely not doable for him, although he is applying. It was Furman I was referring to when I indicated he’s trying not to get his hopes up. </p>
<p>Our financial situation is complicated (isn’t everyone’s?!?!) and I don’t even know how to go about getting a pre-read. My husband is retired, and drawing SS/from his IRA, with all the financial and tax pitfalls that brings. My son’s father is not in the picture, but has paid child support through the court since my son was 1. They’ve never met. I would not even know how to reach him for the CSS Profile info as we haven’t spoken in 16 years.</p>
<p>Sigh…this all seems to be more complicated than I thought it would be…</p>
<p>jcc…face palm. Mea Culpa. </p>
<p>Clearly, posting before coffee was a very dumb thing for me to do this morning.
I read the poster’s intent rather than the subtle wordplay pun - obviously it was just too deep for me so early in the morning…</p>
<p>MereMom don’t feel bad … I read the $10m as $10,000 and thought that was just a joke as in, I wish I could be paying $10k (or $10m) per year!! So I guess we are all a little fried in the brain these days :-)</p>
<p>Like the others have said, this thread brings memories from fall 2007 when like Riverrunner and others we were juggling visits, calls to/from coaches and working on pros/cons of various schools to try to decide the best path. Frantic but it all worked out. Now the focus is on summer jobs with a lot of parallels. Have seen a lot of recruited student athletes quit their sports after 1, 2, 3 years for a whole host of reasons so important for athletes and parents to keep that in mind.</p>