<p>My coworkers have 3 kids attended/attending Princeton and MIT because these kids were excellent swimmer. However, they all started after senior year. Not sophomore.</p>
<p>@PurpleTitan - Good question.</p>
<p>The three kids in my class were back in the early 80s, before the lawsuits. And the son example was in 2000, which was AFTER the lawsuits, which took place in the late 80s, I think.</p>
<p>I do go one step further though into reality, as to why I am not so quick to dismiss such situations - I am in business and I can give reams of documents dictating do’s an don’ts by the federal government of what we can and cannot do and of activities, which are totally illegal and can get us in jail with major fines if done /practiced. And lo and behold, every couple weeks, we get an exception letter for something and do things that were supposedly made illegal by Congress or an agency, and still on the books as illegal. Another company would be hauled to the brink without the exception letter for the same exact act or transaction.</p>
<p>My only point is I do not put anything past any institution regardless of what is on the books, as illegal, what the government says is illegal, and what applies to the average person or business. The story could made up, sure. but, if I told other businesses some of the stuff we are allowed to do, 95%+ of the execs would not believe me because they could never get the exception letter and they know that that act is illegal (supposedly).</p>
<p>Therefore, I have not a clue what arrangement schools can make behind the scenes that are not privy to the standard applicant. I take such things at face value until proved otherwise.</p>
<p>Yes, but the assertion about CBS still strains believability (unless they were trying to kiss up to the dad, which is why I asked if he was rich/powerful/famous).</p>
<p>Top MBA programs usually take grads with work experience for a reason. Unlike athletics, it’s tough to tell if Goldman/McK would really want a kid when he’s only in 10th grade.</p>
<p>Purple, it’s like religion, you have to believe to see the miracle.</p>
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<p>Agreed, the correct word is “usually.” </p>
<p>I helped two undergrads get into the two very top business schools right out of undergrad. What does that say about the rules? If they can get in, and that is just two known by one person, then there must be more exceptions all over the place. The percentage may be higher than we imagine. </p>
<p>My point is the same. It really does not strain credulity if it can happen because it does happen and can be done. I pretty much make my money on the straining of credulity by doing things that people always tell me cannot be done or is very rarely done. That is a very lucrative place to be because everyone is hampered by the rules when you are not. And most people read the rules and follow them without ever thinking of asking for the exception. I live by asking for and getting exceptions.</p>
<p>And there’s people who exaggerate and lie all the time on real life. Not referring to anybody here. </p>
<p>Yes, but they were still college graduates. There’s no rule that business school applicant have to have experience, although they’re more likely to be admitted if they do.</p>
<p>I can say flat out that no 10th grader has been admitted to any of the top business grad schools. It has not happened. Ever.</p>
<p>^^ If you have met more than a few such people in real life and you are now somewhat jaded, as to what people say, I fully understand the skepticism. </p>
<p>There was one person I met back in the late 80s who over the space of a year I realized his life was one big story. He could produce little of what he said. That is the only person I have come across like that and I dropped him like a hot rock, as a friend. But, initially, I took him at his word.</p>
<p>@awcntdb: Not many undergrads get in to b-school directly these days, but they’re not uncommon (and back a few decades ago, it was very common). In fact, many of the top b-schools now try to corral their top undergrads. So a story like yours is very believable.</p>
<p>A 10th grader being promised a spot in CBS, however, smells too much like a tall tale.</p>
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<p>Fair enough. I just get queasy with the never, ever stuff. However, I admit he would one serious exception, if he does exist. </p>
<p>@DrGoogle @awcntdb no the son is not an athlete, and as far as I know he doesnt have the best personal record. He got kicked out of my elementary schools, but i haven’t talked to the kid too much since then, but i dont think that he demonstrated any “superior” academic accomplishment cause his dad never mentioned it. he might have improved, but i know for a fact he isnt an athlete.</p>
<p>@PurpleTitan no, the dad is not famous.</p>
<p>@toesockshoe It could be all smoke and mirrors or there could be that one tidbit of something you just do not know. Stranger things have happened. However, posters have given valid reasons why they think it is a tale.</p>
<p>But, I do leave you with this little thought:</p>
<p>Imagine if I announced I know someone who kills upwards of 20 - 25 bald eagles every year without fail, and does not get punished for it. Just about everyone would think I was blowing smoke, since this is serious fines and jail time for such an offense.</p>
<p>Then for good measure, I add that the person also destroys the habitat of three species of animals listed as endangered species. Just destroys their breeding grounds without even repairing or fixing the damage (would be to expensive to do anyway). And still nothing happens to him even though the authorities knows he does this. I am starting to look like a fool because no way is this possible. </p>
<p>And not to mention, I add he has multiple vehicles that rips up protected wetlands at the tune of over 1000 acres per year, with not one charge of negligence in sight. </p>
<p>Now, most people know if you or I did that we might never get out of jail and only the lord knows what else the government would do to us. </p>
<p>Therefore, the most logical conclusion is I am blowing smoke and a tall tale. Well, that would be the reasonable conclusion right up until I inform you the person owns a wind turbine energy farm and the government gives him a total exemption from all environmental laws that would put anyone else in jail along millions and millions of dollars of fines. But, until you know that last last fact, it sure is a blowing smoke tale. (For the record, there are several people and companies who get this exemption), </p>
<p>My point is only that until you now every single fact, almost any impossible story could be possible, even it is seems virtually improbable. </p>
<p>Oh for heaven’s sake. There can always be a situation where some extra tidbit of information added at the end changes the context of the story (like some sermon given from a pulpit), but in most cases, as Freud used to say, sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. Don’t make more of it than what it is. Most likely the OPs story he was told is a tall tale.</p>
<p>I was surprised to hear that Columbia College offers a Business Management major. My husband (who graduated in the 1970s) commented: “how sad.”</p>
<p>@awcntdb ok, but the father said that EVERY ivy and MOST pretigious schools do this. he said its VERY common within private schools, and said that almost 1000-2000 10th and 11th graders from private schools are recruited to top schools each year? this surely cant be true right? if it was, then it has to be more widely know. a school cant just give out thousands of seats without letting the public now.</p>
<p>Thats preopsterous, toesockshoe. Who is making up this silliness?</p>
<p>@jym626 yeah, i thought the father was making up stuff, but i wasnt 100 percent sure. i just wanted to confirm that becuase i couldnt find any such programs on the internet. i thought maybe its a word of mouth thing that private school students are recruited. and yeah, is MOST likely made up. there may some situations where it may happen, but its definitely not 1000 recruits without any one knowing.</p>
<p>No, there is not an underground network /pipeline of thousands of young high schoolers being culled and placed in the few admission spots at many of the top colleges. Did this guy happen to weave this tall tale on April 1st (April fools?)</p>
<p>How close a friend is this guy? My sister’s first husband was a pathological liar. It took a while for us all to catch on. </p>