Berkeley EECS --- Is it really that bad?

<p>I've heard that the EECS retention rate is extremely low. Can anyone at berkeley tell me the percentage of ppl who drop out by the beginning of sophomore year and junior year?</p>

<p>50% . . . . . .</p>

<p>^^ what's your source on that?</p>

<p>Anecdotally speaking, I have heard the same figure (~50%). Of course, I can't prove that, but I doubt there is much reliable data to be found on this subject.</p>

<p>But I think this number does need to be put in perspective. The truth is, attrition is rather high for engineering students in general. Nationwide, is seems as if about half of all engineering students will switch out of engineering. </p>

<p><a href="http://www.sia-online.org/pre_release.cfm?ID=363%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.sia-online.org/pre_release.cfm?ID=363&lt;/a>
<a href="http://www.engrng.pitt.edu/%7Eec2000/grant_papers/Shuman+ASEE-99.PDF%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.engrng.pitt.edu/~ec2000/grant_papers/Shuman+ASEE-99.PDF&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Oh, I wasn't doubting the figure; engineering is difficult, EECS especially, and at Berkeley? I wouldn't be surprised to see 50% switch out. Dropping out of the university completely, maybe not.</p>

<p>Oh I misread him, I thought it was dropping out of EECS :)</p>

<p>From what I've seen, most who switch out of EECS do so after CS 61A. After 61A, people tend to finish the program.</p>

<p>"Course Format: Three hours of lecture, one and one-half hours of discussion, and one and one-half hours of laboratory and two and one-half hours of unscheduled laboratory per week."</p>

<p>That doesn't sound too fun...</p>

<p>That DEFINES fun.</p>

<p>That would just make me want to take it more.</p>

<p>It makes me laugh how many times "and" is used in that one description. "And this time and that time and and and..."</p>

<p>I need the actual source of statistics or the article, prefereably online, thx</p>

<p>Not all engineering drop out b/c they can't handle it. I knew people (not berkeley, but similarly ranked ungergrad) who switched out of engineering with 3.8 GPAs b/c they wanted more free time.</p>