<p>Does anyone know which major is the easiest to gain acceptance in? I heard it's civil or industrial. And how does this acceptance rate compare to applying as undeclared letters and science?</p>
<p>Major isn't considered in Letters and Science.</p>
<p>as in low impact engineering major vs undeclared L&S? engineering admits by major while letters and science doesnt.</p>
<p>bump..........</p>
<p>I believe that the easiest engineering major to get into is Civil. There was a link that I posted previously that showed the various admit rates and stats of the various engineering majors. You can search for it under my name. </p>
<p>However, you should be warned that switching majors within the CoE is far from automatic. So if you get into CivE, you may find yourself stuck there, which is a shame if you don't really like CivE.</p>
<p>sakky, it's not automatic but it's not that hard... you have to maintain a 3.0 gpa and your advisor will switch it for you</p>
<p>Oh, I don't know if I would classify it as 'not that hard'. I happen to know PLENTY of engineering students who didn't get 3.0's. Not even close, in fact.</p>
<p>I would also say that, at least in the past, you had to get far higher than a 3.0 to switch into certain engineering fields. For example, I recall a guy majoring in MechE who had a GPA much higher than 3.0 who tried to switch to EECS, and was denied. That policy might be different now, but somehow I doubt it, as from what I can tell, EECS is as impacted now as it was back in the old days.</p>
<p>I may switch from MechE to IEOR. I assume that this is one of the easier majors to switch into, assuming I have above a 3.0</p>
<p>As long as you don't switch into an impacted major within CoE, all you need is a 3.0 and nothing else.</p>
<p>soo...applying as CivE is easier than undeclared L&S?</p>
<p>I highly doubt ANY CoE major is easier than applying to L&S. And just because so and so engineering major is easiest, doesn't mean it's easy.</p>
<p>As I said before, what you declare on the application doesn't affect your chances for L&S.</p>
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<p>Uh, aren't they all 'impacted' by definition?</p>
<p>only if you're not within the college of engineering</p>
<p>dont yell at me but if i write an essay about engineering (bc im applying engineering to other UC's) and apply L&S to berkeley bc its easier. Would that get me rejected</p>
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<p>Ok impacted is not the word.</p>
<p>In CoE's Advising Handbook, it lists particular majors that students can switch into within CoE as long as you have a 3.0. I went through the process. So really the hardest part is to make sure you maintain a 3.0.</p>
<p>These majors include: CivE, CES, IEOR, and NucE.</p>
<p>The rest requires a formal process that only accepts applicants requesting a change of major once a year, and the competition is "considered in competition with other change of curriculum and intra campus transfer applicants."</p>
<p>I happened to transfer into IEOR with CoE so actually the process was a breeze.</p>
<p>So in general changing majors within CoE is tough unless it's one of those 4 majors you want to get into.</p>
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dont yell at me but if i write an essay about engineering (bc im applying engineering to other UC's) and apply L&S to berkeley bc its easier. Would that get me rejected
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<p>Haha I don't think anyone yelled at you. We're just trying to help.</p>
<p>If you are applying to L&S to Berkeley, I see no reason for writing an essay about engineering. You'd be better off writing another essay. But if you really want to do engineering, you should probably apply for engineering. From what I hear even though it's tough to get in engineering as a freshman, it's even harder to transfer in after you are admitted to say...L&S.</p>
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<p>Oh, I don't know. I would still say that maintaining a 3.0 in engineering ain't no walk in the park. There are plenty of engineering students who are miles away from having a 3.0.</p>
<p>Which leads me to one of my old ideas. If somebody is doing really poorly in engineering, and somebody else wants to replace him, why can't they swap? For example, if somebody is getting a 2.1 in EECS and so wants to get out, and there is somebody else who is getting a 3.0 and wants to get into EECS, why can't they trade places? Seems to me that by allowing this trade, both students win, as they both get what they want. With the current situation, the bad student in EECS is forced to stay in EECS, and the other guy is not allowed to get into EECS. Each student is therefore prevented from getting what they want. Hence, both sides lose. Why?</p>
<p>My problem is that im not sure if I want to do engineering in the long run but I am still applying to engineering schools at ucsd and ucdavis bc i havea safer chance there. The only problem is the essay goes around to all campuses so I cant apply L&S to berkeley without an engineering essay. My only options now are to 1. submit an engineering essay while applying L&S to Cal 2. Apply engineering to Cal (hella hard) or 3. apply L&S everywhere. What do you think i should do?</p>
<p>here are some questions to consider: </p>
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<li><p>How likely are you to change your mind about studying engineering in the future? Why?</p></li>
<li><p>if you got into Cal for L&S, would you be happy to go to to Cal next year knowing that you'll have to work really hard, and still have a chance of being denied admission into the college of engineering later on? Why or why not?</p></li>
<li><p>Would you be happy to, three years from now, find yourself studying something other than engineering at Cal because of being unable to transfer into engineering? Why or why not?</p></li>
<li><p>This April, given the choice between going to Cal L&S and another school for engineering, would you seriously consider choosing L&S at Cal over engineering at another school? Why or why not?</p></li>
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<p>how you answered the above questions should help you decide what college to apply to cal for. in my humble opinion, there's no point in getting admitted to a program if you won't consider enrolling in it.</p>
<p>also, i should mention that UCLA has a similar college-major-admissions system to cal and is about the same in terms of admissions competitiveness (maybe a hair easier?), so you could hedge your bets and go one way for cal and the other way for UCLA. their engineering school is reputedly not as good as Cal's, though i have my doubts about whether that means a lot in terms of what you learn or your job/grad school prospects after graduation. they're both good schools; actually, UC in general is pretty good.</p>
<p>if you do decide to apply to cal L&S and engineering elsewhere, you could try wording your essays vaguely. For example, you could try saying that you want to "apply science to understand and solve problems facing society" instead of saying that you'd like to "engineer solutions to problems facing society." some key phrases might be "technical skills" and "analytical tools." I suggest writing out an essay with the major-neutral wording and asking other people if it feels affected.</p>
<p>hope this helped. sorry about the length.</p>
<p>it also occurs to me that you could ask UC admissions if there's a way to send different essays to different schools. Maybe you could use a paper app or something?</p>