<p>No, clicheusername. Northeasterners overall are a lot less willing to come West and/or are determined to go to college in the Northeast. However, the California LAC's & Stanford are quite interested in N'East students. Definitely including Massachusetts, which is hardly overrrepresented in CA U's.</p>
<p>Whoops, correcting my post on page 1:
Posts 6 and <em>7</em> are correct.</p>
<p>Florida is horrible if you're not hispanic. Applying to elite schools as a white floridian, almost everyone you're compared to regionally is hispanic!</p>
<p>All the underrepresented states have pretty low populations...</p>
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i think mass. beats cali.
cali= cal tech, ucal, stanford, pepperdine, USC some liberal arts...
mass= mit, harvard, boston college, boston university, amherst, tufts ect...
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<p>I think that MA beats CA too I guess, but I have to say that some of the schools on the list you provided aren't too great. </p>
<p>Revised List of Top Schools at Each State:</p>
<p>CA: Stanford, Caltech, Berkeley, UCLA (maybe?), Pomona, Harvey Mudd
MA: Harvard, MIT, Williams, Amherst, Tufts, Wellesley</p>
<p>Pepperdine, USC, BC, and Boston University aren't really comparable... Pepperdine especially.</p>
<p>What do you guys think of being from Oregon?</p>
<p>CA easily beats MA, you kidding? Sure there's MIT/Harvard, but their total enrollment is less than half of Berkeley. So for most "regular" students, the UC System totally blows the socks off anything MA offers.</p>
<p>In terms of state schools, yes.</p>
<p>all I gotta say is too bad i like in Cali lol</p>
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Illinois (?)
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<p>lol, well, chicago is in illinois</p>
<p>Considering the fact that California is the most populous state has to be a factor...</p>
<p>"Pepperdine, USC, BC, and Boston University aren't really comparable... Pepperdine especially."</p>
<p>How rude, lol! Pepperdine is ranked higher than BU on USNews .. I know that doesn't mean much, but still..</p>
<p>california, new york, and massachusetts, but mostly california.</p>
<p>forget rankings, they are total crap...
I would say USC is leagues above pepperdine, and BC is a league above.
Pepperdine is good, and is probably with BU in level, but i think the teachers are probably better (or at least more famous) at BU.<br>
Pepperdine is overrated anyway. Malibu sux, i hate it. Im tired of living in california, and i just wanna move somewhere where it isnt always sunny</p>
<p>Re Post 31, yes:</p>
<p>CA won't necessarily be adversely affected by having lots of applicants to Elite schools, because it <em>is</em> so populous. Combined with the fact that so Californians go to the good in-State system, the Northeastern schools are still happy to get CA applicants. However, it is less true of some of the NE LAC's, because they have traditionally relied on NE feeder schools, & are not as concerned with more even national representation as the ivies are, for example.</p>
<p>Tennessee, my friends, Tennessee. As someone else said, I would much rather go to school in Massachusetts, knowing I am getting a very good education, than earn worthless A's here in Tennessee.</p>
<p>well concerning OR and UR in the NE and Cali from the other state, the NE and Cali are very different geographically and culturally too. I live in MA, and when I went to Cali I discovered that the only colleges I really liked were ones that had a town/city more in the style of New England than California. (the Claremont Colleges, which actually says in their brochure that the founders had wanted a New England style LAC, and Caltech) I was disinterested in Stanford, okay with UCSD, USC, Pepperdine, a couple other ones, and absolutely hated Cal.</p>
<p>It's just a different environment. In Cali, I saw no public transportation. There was no Harvard Square style area. (that I saw anyway) There were very few things within walking distance. In MA, I don't drive to my workplace, I can bike. Nothing like that in Cali. There are many other differences too.</p>
<p>So you could say that people in the NE tend to stay there because of the culture, and people in Cali stay there both because of the excellent UC system and the culture.</p>
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How rude, lol! Pepperdine is ranked higher than BU on USNews .. I know that doesn't mean much, but still..
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<p>Not a doubt in my mind that BU is a better school. Despite those stupid 'rankings'.</p>
<p>I think California is the best state to be a high schooler. Eventhough I'm a fan of private education, I feel the University of California is the best education system one can get for the amount spent.
With 6 capmuses UCB, UCLA, UCSD, UCD, UCI, and UCSB in the top 50, it provide a vast opertunity for a good student and at < $10,000 a year for instate, it is cheaper than even the Catholic High Schools.
Since not everyone can pay for the private education and might not qualify for the full ride at the top private universities, the opertunity to get a world class education at UCB or UCLA is a dream come true.</p>
<p>So California beats hands down any state for providing the best education at an affordable rate to a vast section of its population. </p>
<p>Note that the remaining campuses of UC i.e. UC SC, UC R, and the newest addition UC M, also qualify for the top 100 Universities. So for a willing, dedicated strong student there is almost a guranted admission to a world class education in California, which is not available in any other state.</p>
<p>I'm a native Californian, lived here my whole life, as did my parents, my husband's parents, and even my grandparents. So my views of colleges and campuses compared to NE campuses is from a wholey Californian view. I would have thought Stanford and Cal both were very ivy covered NE like. Cal is in a city, Berkeley, with the shopping, and culture, and urban experience of a campus surrounded by a city. Cal has excellent public transportation, just steps off campus is BART, which gets you anywhere in the bay area, including San Francisco, and many buses that get you all around. Stanford is a biking campus. And there are bike lanes and trails that get you everywhere. My house is about 6 miles from Stanford campus, and I often take the bike trails to go to events there. (I, like you, prefer to bike everywhere...) Just off Stanford Campus is University Ave, a shopping/entertainment district, and off the other side is the Stanford Shopping Center, and upscale outdoor shopping mall. Also just off the edge of campus is the CalTrain station that will get you to all the neigbhoring towns, as well as up to San Francisco. So I was thinking these two campuses, as well as UCLA, are most like the Ivy covered campuses I see in the NE. (Though the only "campus" I got to visit was NYU, as my husband did the pre acceptance tours on that coast.)</p>
<p>UCSD, though lovely, looked to me like a very modern campus with no real center. USC was a great campus, but with a limited area to explore safely outside of campus, though it's getting better. Are those really how the NE schools are? My daughter wouldn't consider the Claremont Colleges, too small for her, so I didn't visit.</p>
<p>My daughter chose to stay in California for the excellent UC system, and the weather. NYU was a lovely school, lots of wonderful opportunities. She loved the culture in the surrounding neighborhood. She had a hard time turning it down. UCLA is also a beautiful campus, with a vibrant culture in the surrounding city. Again, lots of wonderful opportunites, and half the price of NYU. And she understands the weather here...</p>