<p>Which state is the most competitive?</p>
<ol>
<li>Connecticut 113</li>
<li>Massachusetts 111</li>
<li>New Jersey 111</li>
<li>New York 109</li>
<li>Rhode Island 107</li>
<li>Hawaii 106</li>
<li>Maryland 105</li>
<li>New Hampshire 105</li>
<li>Illinois 104</li>
<li>Delaware 103</li>
</ol>
<p>[snopes.com:</a> State I.Q. Voting Patterns](<a href=“http://www.snopes.com/politics/ballot/stateiq.asp]snopes.com:”>State I.Q. Voting Patterns | Snopes.com)</p>
<p>Really, New Jersey? Out of all places, NJ? I do agree with NY, Massachusetts, and CT being the top four. But NJ, come on. I’d say its hardest to get into good colleges from NY and MA because of all the competition. Both have a lot of diversity, so I wouldn’t rely too heavily on those IQ scores. Competition in the Northeast is nuts. In Florida, it doesn’t seem that bad. We’re a lot more chill, I guess. We don’t have maddening competition that make college admissions impossible.</p>
<p>Kind of offended how they tried to show the conservative South is stupid, though. It’s okay, I guess. This isn’t something new.</p>
<p>The top 5 states for National Merit cutoffs are
DE
MA
MD
NJ
VA</p>
<p>Alphabetical order</p>
<p>Bottom 5:
MS
ND
UT
WV
WY</p>
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<p>The South has been behind since the Industrial Revolution. Way behind New Jersey.</p>
<p>The average IQ of Missouri is definitely not 85. That’s one standard deviation below the mean. Like snopes said, those numbers are false.</p>
<p>Furthermore, SAT results, from the period when SAT tests correlated strongly with IQ scores, indicate that George Bush has a slightly higher IQ than John Kerry. People claim that Bill Clinton’s SAT score is a 1032 and Gore’s is a 135x, but I would bet that Clinton has a higher score. I found this via google, so takes results with a grain of salt.</p>
<p>Good Southern Universities:
-Duke (North Carolina)
-Emory (Georgia)
-Georgia Tech
-Rice (Texas)
-Tulane (Louisiana)
-University of Florida
-University of North Carolina - Chapel Hill
-University of Virginia (Virginia)
-Vanderbilt (Tennessee)
-Washington University - St. Louis (Missouri)</p>
<p>decent universities:
-North Carolina State University
-Texas A&M
-Virgina Tech</p>
<p>Compared to the North:
-Brown
-Boston University
-Columbia
-Cooper Union
-Cornell
-Dartmouth
-Georgetown
-Harvard
-Lehigh
-MIT
-Northwestern
-Penn State
-Princeton
-Purdue
-Rensselaer
-Tufts
-University of Chicago
-University of Illinois - Urbana-Champaign
-University of Maryland -College Park
-University of Michigan - Ann Arbor
-University of Pennsylvania
-Yale
… and many others plus “decent” ones</p>
<p>West:
California State University (kind of)
Caltech
Stanford
University of California
University of Southern California
…probably many more</p>
<p>Wash U is not southern. Very midwest.</p>
<p>Same with Chicago, Northwestern and U Illinois not being in the north. LOL, UIUC is on the same latitude as St. Louis. Quite a trick for one to be in the north and the other south. But even culturally and historically, it doesn’t track.</p>
<p>^I think ozdemir was categorizing on a political basis instead of geographic… but if that was the case, Purdue (in Indiana) wouldn’t be in the North. There’s even a category for the West, even though it politically sides with the liberal North. Ozdemir probably got a bit confused towards the end (it’s okay, everyone get’s confused!). Other than those foibles, I’d say ozdemir’s list is pretty accurate.</p>
<p>Oh behalf of Michigan, don’t lump us in with you East coasters. </p>
<p>Midwestern: </p>
<p>-Northwestern
-Purdue
-University of Chicago
-University of Illinois - Urbana-Champaign
-University of Michigan - Ann Arbor
-University of Wisconsin
-Ohio State
-Washington University</p>
<p>Also, the whole point of the page SaintSaens linked to is that that’s ********, for anyone who didn’t read it and only looked at the chart.</p>
<p>“Furthermore, SAT results, from the period when SAT tests correlated strongly with IQ scores, indicate that George Bush has a slightly higher IQ than John Kerry. People claim that Bill Clinton’s SAT score is a 1032 and Gore’s is a 135x, but I would bet that Clinton has a higher score. I found this via google, so takes results with a grain of salt.”</p>
<p>Your source told you Bill Clinton had an SAT of 1032? Couldn’t tell that was fake from the start huh?</p>
<p>A lot of this disparity also has to do with how old some of the states are. It’s difficult to become a great university when some are already 400 years old. Just saying.</p>
<p>Vermont is considered the smartest state, closely followed by Massachusetts.</p>
<p>The dumbest is Arizona, followed by Nevada.</p>
<p>I’m sure this has been updated someplace here, but on quick look:
<a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/2993607-post662.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/2993607-post662.html</a></p>
<p>@murtyjones
LOL Arizona
Watch this from the daily show about Arizona State University:
[Video:</a> Arizona State Snubs Obama | The Daily Show | Comedy Central](<a href=“The Daily Show with Trevor Noah - TV Series | Comedy Central US”>The Daily Show with Trevor Noah - TV Series | Comedy Central US)</p>
<p>At least Floridians ain’t THAT bad.</p>
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<p>Too bad everyone from New Jersey realizes that the future is in the south and is picking up shop to head down here.</p>
<p>Really, it is too bad. We try to keep our beaches guido-free. :)</p>
<p>^Word, son. Everybody knows the opportunity is in the South. The North is bleak, cold, competitive, lonely, and depressing (especially Cornell). Jobs are low-paying and extremely hard to find in the North. Dreams for “suburbia” have shifted to the South.</p>
<p>borkborkbork, the South clearly has a much lower cost of living and, lower average salaries (I haven’t looked at recent data, but this was certainly true). In thinking about New Jersey, you need to put the Sopranos out of your mind and think about the number of people who work on Wall Street and for NY law firms and major accounting firms and consulting firms (as well as advertising, etc.). These employers tend to select for pretty high IQ and motivation (people come from all over the world to work in NY and many of them when they have kids live in NJ). To the extent that IQ or whatever definition of smartness is hereditable, you’d expect smart kids. To the extent that IQ is environmental, you have a concentration of super-motivated parents who probably are working hard to establish an environment that they think will lead to smart kids. Either way, the data about cutoffs for NM finalists does shed a fair bit of light on the OP’s question (recognizing that PSAT scores not being the only way to measure smartness).</p>
<p>Whether the bright folks in NJ would have a happier and more meaningful life in Mississippi than New Jersey is a value judgment I’ll leave to them. I do know that there are quite a few folks who’ve moved from the Northeast to Raleigh Durham and Austin.</p>
<p>HURRR</p>
<p>Let’s rank regions based on arbitrary criteria which we think is indicative of intelligence.</p>
<p>HURRR</p>
<p>Vermont:</p>
<p>[Smartest</a> State 2006-2007 Press Release](<a href=“http://www.morganquitno.com/edpress06.htm]Smartest”>Smartest State 2006-2007 Press Release)</p>
<p>[WikiAnswers</a> - What is the smartest state in America](<a href=“Answers - The Most Trusted Place for Answering Life's Questions”>Answers - The Most Trusted Place for Answering Life's Questions)</p>
<p>(just for fun!)</p>
<p>What a pathetic listing of universities, you have it all wrong. Also, you forgot the University of Texas at Austin. I don’t know how you can claim knowledge of colleges and leave out UT (it is a “Public Ivy”).</p>