Best biomedical engineering (BME) schools?

[DunninLA]

<p>how well you remember that argument from a year ago, rjkofnovi. :)</p>

[UCBChemEGrad]

<p>^^ That’s the one, rjk…a really good one, I might add. ;)</p>

[Sparkeye7]

<p>^^“how is Carnegie Mellon with BME?”</p>

<p>The Dept. is headed by a Taiwanese American who did his undergrad at the National Taiwan University and PhD from Harvard. My cousin was recruited by him but at the graduate level. In short, from I’ve heard, the BME students have the access to both the reknown UPMC and Pittsburgh NMR Center for Biomedical Research. Hence, I would say that the program is top-notch.</p>

[bruno123]

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how is Carnegie Mellon with BME?

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<p>You can’t take BME as a stand alone major at CMU. You have to take it as double major, jointly with some other engineering specialty. That may be one of the reasons BTW why CMU’s BME program is relatively low ranked by US News and other similar rankings. </p>

<p>Depending on the track you choose, you may combine BME for example with electrical engineering, chemical engineering, or mechanical engineering. </p>

<p>As a final comment, it is worth mentioning that CMU has elected BME and biological sciences in general as some of its top priority areas for future expansion. As mentioned above, CMU has developed in recent times a closer association with the University of Pittsburgh’s medical school to strengthen both research and education in biological sciences and biomedical engineering. CMU has also drawn from its leadership position in computer science and robotics to boost some research areas in bioengineering applications and computational molecular biology.</p>

[rjkofnovi]

<p>" That’s the one, rjk…a really good one, I might add. "</p>

<p>No doubt in my mind about that one. Do you think that UCR can claim UCLA or UCI as it’s defacto medical school? Just wondering? :-)</p>

[UCBChemEGrad]

<p>^ Uh, no, because UCR is developing its own medical school.</p>

<p>UCSF was the original University of California’s health sciences campus (Berkeley was the main campus and Davis was the agricultural sciences campus).</p>

<p>[1868-1898</a> - Introduction - A History of UCSF](<a href=“http://history.library.ucsf.edu/story.html]1868-1898”>1868-1898 - Introduction - A History of UCSF)

The Organic Act of 1868 created the University of California and designated 160 acres of land in Berkeley for its use. Section 8 of the Act directed the Board of Regents “to affiliate with the university any incorporated college of medicine or law, or other special course of instruction now existing or may be created.” In 1872, as the structure of the divisions of the University was still under development and buildings were still under construction in Berkeley, a “medical department” was established under the control of physicians in San Francisco.

Flexnerian reforms mandated the implementation of salaried full-time positions for both scientists and clinicians, consolidation of science and clinical instruction in one geographical location near a major university, and designation of a large teaching hospital completely dedicated to clinical training. In response to these requirements, President Barrows drafted a plan for bringing full-time “vocational” professors to the medical school, consolidation of instruction in one place, and reconfiguration and expansion of the UC Hospital teaching bed capacity along with plans for a school of public health. He then asked the Regents to develop a budget corresponding to these reforms, hoping that in so doing he would secure “the generous participation” of the General Education Board. </p>

<p>As he managed these negotiations, President Barrows was well aware of the local political obstacles to relocating the school at Berkeley. By the early 1920s there were substantial reasons for keeping the medical school in San Francisco, especially in terms of the city’s potential as an inexhaustible source of talented practitioners and patients. Moreover, the medical school’s major endowments of the late nineteenth and early twentieth centuries dictated a commitment to the Parnassus site. Sutro’s donation of land for the Affiliated Colleges in 1895 was contingent on the use of the site expressly for professional medical education, and the Hooper Foundation specified that Hooper-funded research be conducted in San Francisco. Then in 1917, the new UC Hospital was built with $750,000 of private subscriptions from a supportive San Francisco community. President Barrows hoped that the Regents might solve the problem and bend to the wishes of the General Education Board, or conversely, that the General Education Board might be flexible on the issue of the school’s actual location. </p>

<p>On March 12, 1921, in a move reflecting local politics and the lobbying influence of San Francisco clinicians, the UC Regents voted to reaffirm their 1912 decision, stating flatly that “as a prudential measure. . . . it shall be the policy of the Board to consolidate the medical department in San Francisco.” That summer the General Education Board received the UC proposal for consolidation at San Francisco and never replied. It was clear that consolidation of the medical school would have to take place at the university campus in Berkeley in order to satisfy the terms of a Rockefeller endowment. </p>

<p>This was a major loss for California higher education: Rockefeller money was transforming the national landscape of medical education in the interwar years and would eventually provide over $50 million to sixteen medical schools. Philanthropy came from other sources as well. Between 1910 and 1932 foundations would pour a total of $150 million into the reform of American medical education. The Regents’ stubborn adherence to the San Francisco location prevented UC School of Medicine from obtaining national philanthropic financial support during this time of flush private endowments. </p>

<p>The matter of the Rockefeller endowment surfaced again in 1923, when the incumbent UC president, astronomer William W. Campbell, made a last forceful attempt to resolve the medical school situation, which he regarded as “the University’s largest and most difficult problem.” Like Barrows before him, President Campbell traveled east to confer directly with Abraham Flexner and the Rockefeller board, and discovered that, although the donors’ offer of endowing a school of public health at Berkeley was still on the table, they would not assist the medical school if it remained in San Francisco. On the other hand, if the Medical Department was consolidated at Berkeley it was clear that the Rockefeller interests would be “instantly and tremendously interested in its financial problems.” President Campbell delivered an ultimatum to the regents in 1924, arguing that “the Berkeley location of the medical school would tend to make it a statewide institution, in greater degree than it is today, and it would bring many millions of help from outside the State.” He emphatically pointed out that “if the location is to remain in San Francisco, then I respectfully represent, the regents should be prepared to find in San Francisco or elsewhere, very soon, many millions of dollars for the consolidation expansion and maintenance of the Medical School and Hospitals.” </p>

<p>Once again, the Regents stood firm for the Parnassus location, sealing the fate of the UC Medical School for the next three decades. Despite their stubborn rejection of an all-Berkeley medical campus, the Regents did respond to President Campbell’s call for dramatic reform at the medical school and joined him in mobilizing state resources to accomplish the task.

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<p>UCSF is Berkeley’s health sciences campus…just like USC, UCLA and Cornell have their own health sciences campus in a different location from the main university.</p>

[ImPC123]

<p>Can some of BME major students talk about their grade curve of their schools like one did for Johns Hopkins? What about Duke, George Tech, Rice, U Penn, MIT. etc.
Thansk</p>

[HubliDoks]

<p>I would like to know about BME program specifically at UCLA and Georgia TEch. Can someone knowledgeable speak up?</p>

<p>Thanks</p>

[dadinator]

<p>This thread is a few years old.</p>

<p>You might want to start a new thread.</p>

[entomom]

<p>Closing old thread.</p>