Best College Ranking

<p>This is from Stanford Daily
excerpt
STANFORD, Calif. - Some beg, some plead, some even flirt with their professors -- all in the name of getting an "A." But for Stanford University students, achieving those top grades might not be so hard after all, according to a recent grade inflation study at Duke University. Stuart Rojstaczer, a professor of environmental science at Duke, claims that universities throughout the nation -- including Stanford -- employ grade inflation to award greater numbers of students with higher grades.
"The 'C' grade has gone the way of the nickel candy bar," Rojstaczer said.
"The average GPAs are so high, it's difficult to distinguish between those who are exceptional and those who are merely good," Rojstaczer said. "As a result, the higher grades have been devalued." </p>

<p>"It's speculation of course," Rojstaczer said. "But a Stanford student with a GPA of 3.6 percent, for example, would probably have a better chance of getting employment than a student with a similar GPA from an institution where assessment is stricter."</p>

<p>I don't see how Yale has such good professional schools, since their business school...isn't that good.</p>

<p>Yale has a top 5 Law School and a top 10 Medical School. Even its Business school is ranked among the top 20. So it is a top university where professional programs are concerned. Here are the top 10 professional programs:</p>

<h1>1 Harvard University (Top 5 in Law, Business and Medicine)</h1>

<h1>2 Stanford University (Top 5 in Law and Business and top 10 in Medicine)</h1>

<h1>3 Columbia University (Top 5 in Law and top 10 in Business and Medicine)</h1>

<h1>3 Duke University (Top 5 in Medicine and top 10 in Business and Law)</h1>

<h1>3 University of Michigan (Top 5 in Law and top 10 in Business and Medicine)</h1>

<h1>3 University of Pennsylvania (Top 5 in Business, top 10 in Law and Medicine)</h1>

<h1>7 Northwestern University (Top 5 in Business, top 10 in Law and top 20 in Medicine)</h1>

<h1>7 University of Chicago (Top 5 in Law, top 10 in Business and top 20 in Medicine)</h1>

<h1>7 Yale University (top 5 in Law, top 10 in Medicine and top 20 in Business)</h1>

<h1>10 Cornell University (top 15 in Business, Law and Medicine)</h1>

<p>Honorable mention:
University of California-Berkeley
University of California-Los Angeles
University of Southern California
University of Virginia
Vanderbilt University
Washington University-St Louis</p>

<p>If you include Engineering as part of professional programs, schools like Stanford, Michigan, Cal and Cornell would go up ands schools like Harvard, Columbia and Yale would drop.</p>

<p>I was just curious cause he put Duke behind Yale and I know Duke has top 10 in all professional schools.</p>

<p>I agree with you Amused. Yale should not be ranked ahead of Duke in the Professional programs...and UCLA and Cal should not make the top 10 list either. I find it funny that people leave Engineering out of the equation. I think that's because they know some universities, like Harvard and Yale, would hurt as a result.</p>

<p><a href="http://www.ilrg.com/schools/salary/%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.ilrg.com/schools/salary/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Law School
No. School Name ST Reported Median Salary USN&WR Ranking </p>

<ol>
<li><p>NYU NY 85,000 6 </p></li>
<li><p>Columbia NY 83,000 5 </p></li>
<li><p>Yale CT 82,000 1 </p></li>
<li><p>U. of Virginia VA 75,500 9 </p></li>
<li><p>Georgetown DC 73,000 12 </p></li>
<li><p>Harvard MA 72,000 2 </p></li>
<li><p>Stanford CA 71,000 3 </p></li>
<li><p>UCLA CA 70,000 17 </p></li>
<li><p>U. of MI - Ann Arbor MI 70,000 7 </p></li>
<li><p>Northwestern IL 70,000 14 </p></li>
<li><p>U of Chicago IL 70,000 4 </p></li>
<li><p>U. of Pennsylvania PA 70,000 8 </p></li>
<li><p>USC CA 70,000 15 </p></li>
<li><p>Cornell NY 70,000 11 </p></li>
<li><p>Boston U MA 68,000 29 </p></li>
<li><p>Fordham NY 67,500 28 </p></li>
<li><p>UC Berkeley CA 67,000 12 </p></li>
<li><p>UC Hastings CA 66,000 45 </p></li>
<li><p>George Washington DC 66,000 22 </p></li>
<li><p>Duke NC 63,000 1</p></li>
</ol>

<p>The Honor Roll</p>

<p>When U.S. News identifies the top hospitals in 17 specialties every year, a handful (only 14 this year) are singled out as Honor Roll centers—hospitals that excelled not in one or two specialties but in six or more. Rank in the Honor Roll is based on total points: Hospitals got 2 points for ranking at or near the top in a specialty and 1 point for the next rung down (details below)</p>

<p>1.Johns Hopkins Hospital, Baltimore</p>

<p>--- 32 points in 16 specialties </p>

<p>2.UCLA Medical Center, Los Angeles</p>

<p>--- 23 points in 14 specialties </p>

<ol>
<li><p>Duke University Medical Center, Durham, N.C.</p>

<p>--- 18 points in 10 specialties </p></li>
<li><p>University of California, San Francisco Medical Center</p>

<p>--- 18 points in 10 specialties </p></li>
<li><p>University of Washington Medical Center, Seattle</p>

<p>--- 17 points in 10 specialties </p></li>
<li><p>University of Michigan Medical Center, Ann Arbor</p>

<p>--- 13 points in 9 specialties </p>

<ol>
<li>Hospital of the University of Pennsylvania, Philadelphia</li>
</ol>

<p>--- 11 points in 6 specialties
7. Stanford Hospital and Clinics, Stanford, Calif.</p>

<p>--- 10 points in 7 specialties</p></li>
</ol>

<p>B-School Rankings</p>

<p><a href="http://www.businessweek.com/bschools/04/index.html#top30%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.businessweek.com/bschools/04/index.html#top30&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>1 Northwestern
2 Chicago
3 Pennsylvania
4 Stanford
5 Harvard
6 Michigan
7 Cornell
8 Columbia
9 MIT
10 Dartmouth
11 Duke<br>
12 Virginia
13 NYU
14 UCLA
15 Carnegie Mellon
16 UNC Chapel-Hill
17 UC Berkeley<br>
18 Indiana
19 Texas - Austin
20 Emory
21 Purdue
22 Yale
23 Washington U.
24 Notre Dame
25 Georgetown
26 Babson<br>
27 Southern California<br>
28 Maryland
29 Rochester
30 Vanderbilt</p>

<p>
[quote]
You say that in your experience UCB I-banking alumni are superior to those even at HYPS. Have you ever thought that maybe this might be due to the fact that a great majority of these alumni are banking in New York rather than California?

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<p>At the time during 1998-2001, everyone was trying to go to San Francisco for tech investment banking. I personally turned down an offer from a New York bulge bracket, and so did almost all of my colleagues to take offers in tech investment banking in San Francisco. SF was the number one place to work for investment banking for undergrads and MBA's interested in IB all over the country at the time. </p>

<p>Its stuff that everyone who is in the industry is familiar with.</p>

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<p>I agree with you. but at the same time people at your private school who work
very, very diligently and might have gotten B- or C at Berkeley .</p>

<p>This is about NorthWestern GPA
1982 2.99 Northwestern Media Observer, Nov. 2, 2000
1986 3.05 Northwestern University Data Book
1998 3.32 Northwestern Media Observer, Nov. 2, 2000
1999 3.35 <a href="http://adminplan.crown.northwestern.edu/it/databook/v33/V33_f34.xls%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://adminplan.crown.northwestern.edu/it/databook/v33/V33_f34.xls&lt;/a>
2000 3.35 <a href="http://adminplan.crown.northwestern.edu/it/databook/v34/V33_f34.xls%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://adminplan.crown.northwestern.edu/it/databook/v34/V33_f34.xls&lt;/a>
2001 3.38 Northwestern University Data Book
<a href="http://www.gradeinflation.com/northwestern.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.gradeinflation.com/northwestern.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>This is about UNC Data are for Fall Semester, all undergraduates.</p>

<p>1993 2.91
1994 2.88
1995 2.88
1996 2.90
1997 2.93
1998 2.94
1999 2.93
2000 2.95
2001 2.98</p>

<p>According to USNews</p>

<p>Best National Universities of 2005</p>

<ol>
<li>Harvard, Princeton</li>
<li>Yale</li>
<li>UPENN</li>
<li>Duke, MIT, Stanford </li>
<li>CALTech</li>
<li>Columbia, Dartmouth</li>
<li>Northwestern, Washington University St. Louis</li>
<li>Brown</li>
<li>Cornell, John Hopkins, U of Chicago</li>
<li>Rice</li>
<li>Notre Dame, Vanderbilt</li>
<li>Emory</li>
<li>UCBerkeley</li>
<li>Carnegie Mellon, UMich Ann Arbor, U of Virgina</li>
<li>Georgetown, UCLA</li>
<li>Wake Forest</li>
<li>Tufts</li>
<li>UNC Chapel Hill</li>
<li>U of Southern California</li>
</ol>

<p>Bah. All discrete rankings are essentially ridiculous but there should be a special circle in Hell for the US News rankings. They have done a great disservice in warping the application to and discussion about colleges.</p>

<p>Coto,</p>

<p>There are many B-school ranking systems, making it even more complicated. If you average them all out (UNNEWS, BusinessWeek, Financial Times, Forbes) you get a list much more like this:</p>

<p>1: Harvard, Wharton, Stanford
2. Northwestern-Kellogg
3: MIT, Columbia, Chicago
4. Dartmouth-Tuck, Michigan</p>

<p>Slipper's groupings are quite accurate. Most people would say that Michigan belongs in group 3 and that Duke and maybe Haas belong in group 4.</p>

<p>Alexandre, I goto Michigan, I'm an engineer out of state as well. I don't think Michigan belongs with the ivies in undergraduate education. You can make a case for the engineering school, but tahts only like 1/5 of the school. LSA stinks, everything about LSA is bad.</p>

<p>"1. Williams
2. Amherst
3. Swarthmore
4. Yale
5. Princeton
6. MIT
7. CalTech
8. Harvard
9. Stanford
10. Dartmouth
11. Duke
12. Pomona
13. Columbia
14. UChicago
15. Carleton
16. Wellesley</p>

<p>Honorable Mentions: Cornell, Brown, UPenn, Deep Springs College"</p>

<p>Wow are you ****ing kidding me? U. Chicago is 100000000 better than ponoma, for christ's sake, the nuclear bomb was invented there. That school is infinitly better than some LAC.</p>

<p>As for the other LACs, nothign compared to research universities.</p>

<p>Chicago is one of the greatest universities in the US. It is strange how people on
CC fail to recognize this.</p>

<p>yatta-
It is preferable to give your opinion without expletives. And it is also preferable to spell "Pomona, infinitely, and nothing " correctly. My point is, you can make typos, but please refrain form shouting your opinion with expletives. (But it is o.k. to repeat yourself to make a point :) )</p>

<ol>
<li>Stanford</li>
<li>Harvard</li>
<li>MIT</li>
<li>Princeton</li>
<li>Yale</li>
<li>Caltech</li>
<li>Dartmouth</li>
<li>Columbia</li>
<li>Brown</li>
<li>Penn</li>
<li>Cornell</li>
<li>Duke</li>
<li>U Chicago</li>
<li>Berkeley</li>
<li>Johns Hopkins</li>
<li>WUSTL</li>
<li>Northwestern</li>
</ol>

<p>Jeffl, you perhaps have a warped idea of what a university should provide. Many people do. And since the grass is alway greener accross the fence, I am not surprised that you think as you do. But as somebody who has studied at both Michigan and an Ivy League, I can tell you that they are pretty much identical. And by the way, Michigan in stronger in the Humanities and Social Sciences than it is in Engineering...both at the undergraduate and graduate levels. Political Science, Psychology, History, Anthropology, Sociology, International Studies etc... are all ranked among the top 3 nationally.</p>