<p>Stanford, Hass UC Berk, Anderson UCLA</p>
<p>Stanford and HASS are not only known in US and West Coast but its known world wide for creating excellent and professionaly minded businessmen/women. I currently work in Samsung for telecomunication marketing and Hass and Stanford are known in korea as well so its known world wide</p>
<p>Well, I'm sure they know then that it's "Haas" and not "Hass".</p>
<p>Ah... in the "Asian perspective" vein, I suppose I'd have to agree. The parent university brand definitely helps in that area.</p>
<p>Disclaimer: UCLA UG; Kellogg MBA</p>
<p>My Gods, Listen Up and Listen Good Boys. Berkeley’s MBA degree will give you as the best network opportunities/prestige in Asia (except Harvard :) ) because all the big wigs in Asia’s Corporate/Government/Academia world got their PhD’s in either Harvard/MIT/Berkeley.</p>
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My Gods, Listen Up and Listen Good Boys. Berkeley’s MBA degree will give you as the best network opportunities/prestige in Asia (except Harvard ) because all the big wigs in Asia’s Corporate/Government/Academia world got their PhD’s in either Harvard/MIT/Berkeley.
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<p>did anyone understand that?</p>
<p>^^ Huh? what are you trying to say? If I were you, I would sleep with my eyes open</p>
<p>The best? As in a singular school, Stanford.</p>
<p>University of Washington</p>
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My Gods, Listen Up and Listen Good Boys. Berkeley’s MBA degree will give you as the best network opportunities/prestige in Asia (except Harvard ) because all the big wigs in Asia’s Corporate/Government/Academia world got their PhD’s in either Harvard/MIT/Berkeley
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<p>Even if that were true (which I don't think it is), how does that make the Haas MBA automatically better than MITSloan? </p>
<p>Furthermore, I don't even think it's true simply because I highly doubt that Stanford and Wharton don't also carry significant prestige within Asia.</p>
<p>Here's some rankings as listed in the Princeton Review's book "Best 237 Business Schools", which ranks the MBA programs--and lists a top 10 list for various categories.</p>
<p>West Coast schools on their lists were as follows:
Toughest to Get Into: #2 Stanford, #6 Berkeley, #8 UCLA
Best Overall Academic Experience: #4 UCLA, #8 Stanford, #10 Berkeley
Best Career Prospects: #1 Stanford, #3 Berkeley, #8 UCLA
Most Family Friendly: #4 Stanford
Best Campus Environment: #2 UCLA, #4 Stanford, #8 Pepperdine, #9 Loyola Marymount
Best Campus Facilities: #7 Oregon, #9 Berkeley
Greatest Opportunities for Minorities: #3 San Francisco State, #8 Loyola Marymouth, #9 University of San Francisco
Greatest Opportunities for Women: #2 Berkeley, #6 Stanford, #8 UC Davis, #10 UCLA
Best Professors: No west coast schools listed.
Most Competitive Students: No west coast schools listed.</p>
<p>I would say that most people can agree that the top schools are: (probably in this order)</p>
<p>Stanford
Berkeley
UCLA</p>
<p>Other top MBA programs: USC, Washington, Oregon, UC Davis, Pepperdine, Loyola Marymount, Claremont, Santa Clara</p>
<p>Other schools to consider: UC Irvine, UC Riverside, University of San Francisco, San Francisco State, San Diego State, Seattle University, UC Santa Cruz, UC Santa Barbara, Univ of San Diego, Cal State Long Beach, Oregon State</p>
<p>Two schools just getting their business programs started: UC San Diego, UC Merced</p>
<p>P.S. I'm a UCLA MBA graduate.</p>
<p>UCSB and UCSC don't have MBA programs as far as I know. And I'd put UC Irvine under the "other top MBA programs" behind USC, Davis, and maybe UW but ahead of the others in that listing.</p>
<p>Disclaimer: UCI undergrad, UCLA MBA</p>
<p>Wow, that list...</p>
<p>alicante kid, thanks for the info on UCSB and UCSC. I thought UCSC had a MBA program because of their PhD offered in Technology and Information Management--but I see that degree is offered through their computer engineering department, not business department. </p>
<p>Also, thank you for your assessment of UCI as in-belonging in the other top MBA programs--I debated a long time before putting it in the second group--and, in-fact, this is why I placed UCI first in the category of "Others to consider". You are probably right that it belongs in the first group.</p>
<p>I just applied to USC, Arizona (Eller), ASU, and UCLA…UCLA is my stretch but I think the others should work out…I def want to settle out west - I may consider UC Irvine as well.</p>
<p>I know Arizona and USC are my top 2 if UCLA does not pan out.</p>
<p>CalX, I think you’re missing the point in this argument.</p>
<p>I’ll attempt to set up a logical argument for you:</p>
<p>First, let’s accept your premise that Haas’s Asian Studies MBA program is #1 in the country.</p>
<p>Ok now, let’s look towards the real issue at hand: Can you first accept the argument that the Asian business community bases its interpretation of the top business schools based on solely brand name and prestige? Then can we ascertain that MIT has a more prestigious name internationally (ESPECIALLY in the Asian market) than Haas?</p>
<p>We may then extrapolate that:
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<p>3) Therefore, MIT is seen as a superior school to Haas in an international setting.</p>
<p>Now again, I AM accepting your premise that Haas has a super Asian-Studies MBA program.</p>
<p>However, let’s take a look at a couple other program rankings:</p>
<p>Undergraduate Business (BusinessWeek Rankings)
<p>Graduate Business (USNEWS):
3) Northwestern
4) Wharton </p>
<p>Ok, so by “program” Notre Dame and UVA have better undergraduate programs than Wharton, and Northwestern has a better graduate program.</p>
<p>Is there anyone who would say it’d be better to have an undergraduate degree from UVA or ND than Wharton, or (although this one is a little closer) an MBA from Kellogg instead of Wharton? </p>
<p>Sorry, even if the education standard of the program is “ranked” higher, when applying for a job its the prestige of the overall business program that carries the most weight, not the ranking of that individual program. Even as instances (shown above) where the entire business school is “ranked” higher, very few employers cares. I would go even further to say this goes even more for the Asian community, where they have even less knowledge of the extensive specifics of US MBA concentrations. </p>
<p>In actuality, because of the high level of prestige that Sloan holds in the Asian community, I think you could even argue that Sloan is held higher than Wharton in the Asian job market (although this is highly debatable). </p>
<p>In conclusion, like others said Haas in an amazing program that is considered very highly, but it just doesn’t hold its own against Harvard, Stanford, Wharton, MIT, or Kellogg in either America or Asia.</p>
<p>Just my two cents.</p>
<p>In my last post replace “MIT” with “GSB”, I hadn’t read all of your posts and realized that you were arguing Haas over Stanford as well.</p>
<p>Btw, sakky is one of the most respected veterans on this board period, let alone business.</p>
<p>Calling him out on experience probably would not be your best bet.</p>
<p>Top 10:
<p>Top 20:
3. UCLA-Andersen
4. USC-Marshall</p>
<p>The Top Three Business Programs on the West Coast: Stanford, Thunderbird, and The Drucker School at the world renowned Claremont Colleges.</p>