<p>I do like their system, but the rankings themselves are no good...Penn should be much higher (19-20% admissions rate now vs. the 29% when the rankings were made) as should Chicago (40% now vs. 61% then). Those are two schools in the top 25 where the current admissions rate would drastically change their positions. MIT has also gotten somewhat more selective.</p>
<p>My take...</p>
<p>Tier One: Harvard, Yale, Princeton, MIT
Tier Two: UPenn, Stanford, Columbia, Duke, CalTech
Tier Three: Georgetown, UChicago, Dartmouth, Northwestern, JHU
Tier Four: Cornell, Brown, WUSTL, Notre Dame, UC Berkely, UVA
Tier Five: Vandy, Michigan, Rice, Tufts, UNC-CH, UCLA</p>
<p>buckey, ur rankings make no sense.</p>
<p>actually, i kind of liked buckeye's rankings. I would just add Cornell to tier 2 and pump Penn up to tier 1 where it belongs.</p>
<p>btw, i completley agree with you jpps</p>
<p>I think it depends on the region. I go to school with students who only know of the top Michigan schools, maybe a few state schools they'll get into, and then of course the typical BIG NAMES like Yale, Harvard, Princeton, Notre Dame, anything big in sports like North Carolina or Tennessee, but that's it. However, I work with people who know all about Northwestern, NYU, Wisconsin-Madison, etc. Personally, I have spent a good deal of time researching colleges so I know a lot. I could fair well in any Jeopardy category titled American Colleges. </p>
<p>But that's not saying I didn't learn it all from research. If you truly want name recognition, you have to make it in movie and television shout-outs. I researched Northwestern because it was mentioned in Never Been Kissed way back when I saw that at the theater. I liked what I read and want to go there now. As for the Ivy League schools, I didn't know Cornell was in that group until I saw American Pie 2 and looked up the school. UPenn because of American Dreams (that NBC show that was cancelled), Stanford because of Full House, UCLA because of that Pauley Shore movie Son-in-Law, and UC-Berkeley because of Riding In Cars With Boys, that Drew Barrymore movie. I knew about NYU because of Can't Hardly Wait, Notre Dame because of that Sean Astin movie, University of Virginia because of Silence of the Lambs. People don't automatically know about colleges until they are introduced to them; or they take the initiative to learn about them.</p>
<p>You're all a bunch of stupid morons, and you're dumb too!
Just kidding... :rolleyes:</p>
<p>Flopsy's Ranking</p>
<p>Tier I: Harvard, Princeton, Yale, Stanford, MIT (Household names)
Tier II: Caltech, Brown, Columbia, UPenn, Duke (Familiar names)
Tier III: Northwestern, Cornell, Johns Hopkins, UChicago, Dartmouth (Well-known privates)
Tier IV: Berkeley, Michigan, UCLA, Virginia, UNC-Chapel Hill (Well-known publics)
Tier V: Georgetown, NYU, Vanderbilt, Rice, Notre Dame (Tier II of well-known privates)</p>
<p>I: Princeton, Harvard, Yale -- no competing with the big 3 in terms of prestige :P
II: Stanford, MIT, Caltech
III: UPenn, Brown, Columbia, Duke
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<p>i agree with flopsy.</p>
<p>"As for the Ivy League schools, I didn't know Cornell was in that group until I saw American Pie 2 and looked up the school. UPenn because of American Dreams (that NBC show that was cancelled), Stanford because of Full House, UCLA because of that Pauley Shore movie Son-in-Law, and UC-Berkeley because of Riding In Cars With Boys, that Drew Barrymore movie."</p>
<p>What does Stanford have to do with Full House? Did one of the kids get in?</p>
<p>^^DJ wanted to go to Stanford, ahhahaha i feel liek such a loser, but full house is one of my guilty pleasures along with boy meets world.</p>
<p>^^^^LOL yeah she got rejected by stanford so she was disappointed that she had to settle for second-rate berkeley, and her father had to explain to her that berkeley's a good school.</p>
<p>I like it when people get rejected on tv. I feel like they get into their dream schools too often (eg rory on gilmore girls got into HPY).</p>
<p>Didn't Hilary get rejected from Princeton on Fresh Prince of Bel-Air?</p>
<p>I must have missed that episode! (or to be honest episodes.... Fresh prince is on every few years at 5pm so i only got to see random episodes)</p>
<p>Hilary was a bit ditzy yeh? Ended up being a talk show host or something? </p>
<p>sorry guys i went right off track. Back to university rankings! heh</p>
<p>I'm not sure about Hilary, but Carlton got rejected from Princeton. Then again he did threaten his interviewer.</p>
<p>I was worried I was going to end up like Carlton. After doing so much more work in high school than Will, they still both ended up at UCLA.</p>
<p>The people who put Caltech, Pomona, Middlebury (or any LAC) high on a list of Best Name Recognition/Prestige are insane. Walk down the street, ask 20 people name the ten best universities and I'll bet you that not a single person will mention any of the above. And Flopsy, do you really believe that UNC and UCLA are as prestigious as Berkelely? If so, where are you from? Because every place I've ever been have seen UCLA, UNC and UMich as good sports schools and are shocked to find out that they are also good academic schools, whereas Berkeley is known as an academic school. If we're talking strictly about name recognition than thats a different story. If thats the case then USC, Florida State, UNC, Miami and Notre Dame are the most known schools in the country, ahead of every Ivy (maybe not Harvard), Stanford and MIT.</p>
<p>I liked the Boy Meets World where Eric wants to go to Boris College. That was good. And I remember some random reference to North Southwestern University or something. That show was bomb.</p>
<p>Anyways, in addition to movies, I think sports usually do a pretty good job of advertising. I mean, sure you've got you're people earlier in this thread who live in a box and don't turn on the television and have ESPN completely blocked and haven't heard of Notre Dame, but for the most part I think most people have heard of big sports schools.</p>
<p>Also, GentlemanandScholar, Cal has the best defense in the Pac-10 (which doesn't say much) but still they have some pretty nice sports going on over there, too.</p>
<p>heybucs, best defense in what? Basketball? Football? Baseball? National defense?</p>