<p>i guess it really depends on where you ask. because in minnesota, unc, bc, and bu arent really BIG names, they're just average. everyone knows uchicago is amazing though.</p>
<p>I used to live in America and I had never heard of UChicago until last year when a friend applied. I don't think he had ever heard of it until a teacher told him about it.</p>
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Tier 1: Harvard, Yale, MIT, Princeton, Stanford
Tier 2: Brown, Cornell, Columbia, Notre Dame, Duke
Tier 3: Penn, Berkeley, Georgetown, Dartmouth, Vanderbilt
Tier 4: Northwestern, Rice, Emory, Boston College, NYU
Tier 5: UNC, Georgia Tech, Michigan, USC, Wake Forest
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<p>^^^^
That's fair, but question, why make Vandy sound so good? Only recognition I hear of Vandy is 1)good engineering, 2)prep school of Tennessee, 3) and school of voluntary segregation.</p>
<p>You might aswell put it one tier down with its other Southern peer elite institutions.</p>
<p>I'm also curious, in terms of name recognition, which is considered the better school by public, overall, in Chicago? Norhwestern or UofChicago? Is their the same public vibe like in the Bay Area, where Stanford beats UCBerkeley? Does one simply recieve more public admiration like Harvard over MIT?</p>
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Most people overseas can name a few Ivies, MIT, NYU, Duke, UT, Berkeley, UNC, BC, BU, etc.
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<p>Can some explain the big deal with Utah? I have Taiwanese and Korean friends at school that say at home, University of Utah is a good school, but turn around and say schools like Syracuse, Rochester, Williams, & Dartmouth are not good enough for their families to send them to?!!</p>
<p>Isn't the UT in that quote referring to U of Texas... not University of Utah? I've never heard of University of Utah either. Does it exist?</p>
<p>When I said UT I meant University of Texas. Not Utah. Sorry. A lot of people have heard of it, because its so big.</p>
<p>Here's a stab at it:
Tier 1A: Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Stanford, MIT.
Tier 1B: Amherst, Williams.
Tier 2: Duke, Caltech, Dartmouth, Brown.
Tier 3A: Penn, Columbia, Cornell, Wash U., Northwestern, Notre Dame, Berkely.
Tier 3B: Middlebury, Pomona, Davidson.
Tier 4: Johns Hopkins, Michigan, Chicago, Rice, Georgetown, UVA.</p>
<p>How about everyone starts posting where they're from? The regional bias and type of school people tend toward is getting a little ridiculous.</p>
<p>The liberal arts people... if you're going by "name recognition," liberal arts colleges aren't going to have anywhere near the name recognition of a bigger school elsewhere.</p>
<p>This thread is also too ambiguous which has led to it being all over the place. Are we looking for best academic? Most recognized by the average person? Most recognized by future employer?</p>
<p>I personally think UVa isn't given enough recognition for the school that it is in some of the interpretations put forth in this thread. </p>
<p>I think it should be in the same tier as UChicago, Northwestern, Georgetown, Rice, UNC, UMich, etc. The fact that it isn't even mentioned in some of the lists is surprising; even though we're talking about name recognition and not exactly school quality its still a little odd.</p>
<p>If we're talking about the average person, I think Brown, Dartmouth, Davidson, and almost all small LACs would be off the list because they don't have big athletics programs that are nationally known</p>
<p>UChicago is one of the top 10 schools with great faculty. BC and BU ARE RANKED 40TH and 6OTH-not that elite.</p>
<p>I live in Montreal. However, I'm from an upper-middle class environment and background (where many adults have gone to university in the U.S., or have their kids there now), so obviously the schools on this list are influenced by that. I doubt that most Montrealers have heard of places like Williams or even Dartmouth.</p>
<p>Tier 1: Harvard, Yale, Princeton
Tier 1.5: McGill, U of T
Tier 2: Penn, Columbia, Stanford, NYU, MIT
Tier 3: Cornell, Dartmouth, Queens, Amherst, Williams, JHU</p>
<p>I really couldn't say much past there.</p>
<p>"This thread is also too ambiguous which has led to it being all over the place. Are we looking for best academic? Most recognized by the average person? Most recognized by future employer?"</p>
<p>read the first post</p>
<p>What about wash u!!!</p>
<p>"Tier 2: Penn, Columbia, Stanford, NYU, MIT"</p>
<p>Sorry, but one of these is not like the others. NYU belongs in Tier 4.</p>
<p>"Sorry, but one of these is not like the others. NYU belongs in Tier 4."</p>
<p>And I was just listing what schools are considered prestigious in my area. It doesn't reflect my opinion.</p>
<p>Check out the Laissez-Faire ranking on this website. It's a few years out of date but, for my money, does the best job of ranking that I have seen. And they put the universities and colleges in the same ranking - solving a weakness in the U.S. News rankings as I see it. Their top rankings: (1) Harvard; (2) tie of Princeton, Stanford, and Yale; (5) tie of MIT and Caltech; (7) tie of Amherst, Brown, Columbia, Dartmouth, Swarthmore, Williams; (13) tie of Duke, Rice, Penn; (16) tie of Cornell, Georgetown, Haverford, Johns Hopkins, Middlebury, Northwestern, Pomona; and so on.</p>
<p>I find the Laissez-Faire ranking to be horribly out of date...</p>
<p>It is out of date because the underlying data on selectivity et al is 5 years or so old. But their system for ranking and the way they lump colleges and universities toegether seems, as I understand it, to make more sense than the widely followed U.S. News system.</p>
<p>us news is the bomb, freaking Laissez-Faire blows. its like 5 years old!</p>