@Sybylla yes, she turns 18 in Dec 2019 - during her freshman year.
I would definitely pose this scenario to the school. I’m skeptical. First of all, there is technically no custodial or non-custodial parent of a legal adult (custody applies to minors), which suggests that residency will be determined as of high school completion and not after.
@lookingforward I know that I am the custodial parent this year. But hypothetically speaking, if she stays with her dad in NY after school starts, he should be able to file in 2020 and moving forward, correct? It would make sense for her to either stay with him or my parents for short breaks.
So if she goes to live with dad this summer she would still be a minor.
@itsgettingreal17 @suzy100 I will definitely confirm w/ the school. This isn’t something that I’m banking on. I was just reading what was posted on SUNY’s website. I’m sure there are all hues of gray. This is just 1 school out of 15, and hopefully it’ll be a moot issue. She will also technically be a minor for 1/2 of her first college year. She doesn’t turn 18 until Dec 2019.
This summer she’d be moving for purposes of attending college. Most states don’t allow that. And as someone else pointed out, the parents were never married, making her idea even more unlikely to work.
@Sybylla yes. She will be a minor for 1/2 of her freshman year in college.
Highly unlikely she will be considered a NY resident. The rules are expressly designed to prevent that.
More here
https://www.suny.edu/sunypp/documents.cfm?doc_id=402
This stuff is far from easy. Lots of kids want cost advantages and the colleges know it.
Being 18 doesn’t change how colleges view domicile.
ED is going to give her another boost on top of the URM. Her grades are strong, rigor looks there, (depends on how the high school is perceived by colleges of course), and the SAT is not so far out of range. I think in the Harvard lawsuit, it was shown that the avg AA SAT was 1400. So a 1370 is in the ballpark.
Is the lawsuit using New SAT detail? At many top schools, the bar went up.
And this is not just about stats. It’s about presenting a full picture that shows what a top holistic target wants. There’s a lot to pull together.
I’m concerned we’re confusing OP even further. UT is great, but her D would prefer the NE. We don’t know much about the rest of it.
: UCLA, UMich, NYU (I don’t agree with these but she wants to apply because she knows people with similar resumes from her school who has gotten in) Tufts, Bowdoin, Duke, Harvard, Yale, Amherst, Brown and Dartmouth. She’s a young senior (turning 17 in Dec) and maybe she needs to take a gap year and beef up her resume
d the list and added Barnard, Bates, SUNY Binghamton, Carnegie Mellon, Rice, UT Austin, Vassar, & Tufts. I
@lookingforward SUNY Binghamton is her safety. I understand that they’ll want financial info from both households and her dad is submitting his info.
“However, students of divorced or legally separated parents may acquire a New York State domicile if the custodial parent is a New York State resident or if the student resides with a non-custodial parent who is a New York State resident and the student intends to continue to reside with that parent throughout their attendance at SUNY.”
Once she starts living with him during school breaks, it is likely that he will become her custodial parent for the FAFSA
@thumper1 , I don’t think moving to NY for college and costs paid by the present custodial parent in TX will allow an easy/simple conversion to a NY resident. More detail is in my second link. And the residency statement is part of the initial freshman application. It’s not a shoo in. OP said she’d call SUNY and clarify.
Sorry…I hit the wrong button…let me do my post again…
Let’s start with UCLA. She will receive NO need based financial aid there, and likely no merit aid either. They don’t give aid to OOS students. Plan to be full pay at over $60,000 a year. And that’s IF she gets accepted…
UMich doesn’t meet full need for all accepted OOS students. There is a tuition program for families with lower incomes but I’m unclear what your income actually is.
NYU does not guarantee to meet full need for all. Cost is over $70,000 a year. Non-custodial Parent Profile is required, and this will include dad and his spouses income and assets.
Harvard, Yale, Amherst, Brown, Dartmouth are reaches for just about everyone. They also require the Profile and non-custodial parent Profile.
Rice, Duke, Bates, Bowdoin and Tufts are not sure things these days either. All use the Profile and non-custodial parent form.
Bing, CM, Vassar, UT, seem like acceptance possiblilities…but how are you going to pay for them? HOW? Well…UT is realistic!
Barnard…I thought you said NO women’s colleges. Barnard is a women’s college…and a pricey one.
NO…Bing uses the FAFSA only…so will use the custodial parent only…and that is you…not her dad. Any child or spousal support would need to be included on YOUR FAFSA. But the non-custodial parent submits nothing to Bing.
I can’t see how she would be a NY resident. She resides in Texas with you and will graduate from a Texas HS. @sybbie719 is this correct?
@happymomof1 she would need REALLY long school breaks as she would need to reside with dad greater than 51% of the time. School breaks are not six months plus…per year.
This student is not a first generation college student. Both parents attended college.
And lastly…the net price calculators will NOT be accurate. They don’t work well with divorced families in most cases.
I would suggest adding UTD to her list. She might get decent merit aid there.
Also, realistically, you need to look at the finances and figure out what you CAN realistically pay annually for college costs. No wishful thinking…no “we will make it work”. That is just not realistic.
The northeast is a very expensive place…well the schools you listed.
It’s fine for her to apply…but she needs to understand that she just might not get accepted at a number of these colleges…OR that the cost for her to attend will be too high. Please explain those things to her…now.
ETA…in this LONG thread…I see you were never married to the dad. Really for financial aid purposes, the Dad is the dad. His info will be required by Profile schools.
The net price calculators won’t be accurate for you as a single parent.
She claims to make $160-170 gross working 2 jobs 7 days/week
dont know about other assets
$160,000 a year income will likely yield a family contribution of $40,000 to a little over $50,000 a year. A YEAR.
And that doesn’t include the non-custodial parent and spouse’s income.
@thumper1, normally I agree with you 100% and I do think UTD is a great school but I don’t think it would be a good fit for OP 's kid at all. Although UTD offers a small ‘diversity’ scholarship, it’s larger merit awards are based on a combination of rank, GPA, rigor and SAT/ACT so unless she gets her SAT/ACT score up there won’t be much merit.
For refference the averge SAT score for their highest level of merit (other than National Merit and Mcdermott) was 1540 out of 1600.