Best town for virtual semester?

Some schools will not allow students on campus this fall. Any suggestions for a town where a half dozen kids can get their school work done and enjoy the outdoors? Beach? Mountains? Someone else’s college (e.g. neighborhood of Georgetown)? Reliable internet access and private rooms for studying are the primary criteria. Thanks!

Checking for clarity…you are looking for a six bedroom place near the beach and/or mountains so each student can have a private room? How many bathrooms do you want or need?

I would like to go there… Lol… ?.

Since this might become a thing just Google areas and see what’s available. Maybe if you limit regions that make sense fork you that might be helpful.

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thumper1 - Yes, thanks.

Justing asking for fun. I recall Vail has lots of mountain biking trails. Maybe a ski lodge is cheap, if vacated by 12/15? I am a city boy and would choose Burlington or Georgetown.

The “committee” of seniors will meet Friday to decide their fall residence. I will present CC’s ideas.

Well since it’s for fun and where we went on our honeymoon when JC Penny’s had a travel service and we had their JC Penny card…

https://tahititourisme.com/en-us/covid-19/

Seems like a good time to go now and can’t beat the beaches.

By the time the fall semester starts, there will be places for rent in places like Folly Beach (SC). Prices will be off season probably by that time. But SC is a hot spot, so you need to consider that too. Plus it’s hurricane season…maybe not the best time to be on the SE coast.

Burlington is actually a good idea. You don’t want a small town somewhere. Do you all have cars?

Yes, availability of cars is a big consideration. Vail seems a bit limiting since it’s pre-ski season but still getting cold. But with a car somewhere like Salt Lake City (or Park City for a ski lodge) gives you a range of mountains and national parks for weekends (including relative warmth in southern Utah) and a decent sized city. I would even look at Arizona for great weather on the basis that if they are getting through their COVID crisis now, the rate of infections should drop in the fall, and it will be cheap. Again a car would be needed.

Hermosa Beach, Carmel, Tahoe…

I would head to Maine if I had the choice :).

Ski towns in Colorado are packed. People are traveling locally. My brother lives in Steamboat and says it is packed, especially on weekends and the baseball tournaments haven’t even started yet (will in July).

A long term rental might be possible in Oct/Nov at a discount, but prices will shoot up for Thanksgiving week and after. The more remote from a town, the cheaper, but the wifi might be bad. Also, the cost for groceries, restaurants, gas, etc will always be higher in the resort towns with no discount for off season.

I don’t know what it’s like in other places, but at least in Vermont there was a lot of anger directed at all the people who escaped their hometowns and went to their vacation houses in VT. The Vermonters felt that these out-of-towners were bringing the virus with them, and that they were a Huge strain on their resources. Not only were they worried about the number of hospital beds available, but they were also getting annoyed that when they wanted to go hiking the parking lots at the trail heads were packed and they’d be passing other hikers on narrow trails so couldn’t maintain distance. Of course VT welcomes hikers etc during regular times, but it’s normally only as crowded a couple of weeks a year, rather than months on end. Evidently there were a lot of angry signs posted about NYers go home etc.

It’s my understanding that the same thing happened in the Hamptons.

Just letting you know your son and his friends might face some hostility, especially in more rural areas where resources are limited.

Wow, what an interesting idea. Here are some suggestions:

  1. NY finger lakes. Lake George is my favorite. Plenty of large cabins. More affordable during off-season.

  2. Maine cabins - plenty of cabins on the lake. They call them “camps”. Look for camps that are insulated and have a wood stove for heat.

  3. Beach towns - plenty of beach towns are empty after the school year starts. Point Pleasant, Cape May, Wildwood, Rehoboth, Ocean City, VA beach, NC beaches, etc.

  4. Pocono mountains - close to NY/NJ. Is primarily a winter ski area, but in the off season, lots of deals for cabins.

Which Burlington?

Lake George is lovely, but it’s not a Finger Lake. It’s in the Adirondack mountains, in the eastern part of NY state.

The Finger Lake region, in the western part of the state, is absolutely gorgeous. The lakes are Cayuga , Seneca, Keuka, Canandaigua, Honeoye, Otisco, Skaneateles, Owasco, Canadice, Hemlock, and Conesus. The City of Ithaca, home to Cornell University and Ithaca College, is at the foot of Cayuga Lake. It’s spectacular.

And you might also find it interesting that Cornell University decided to hold on-campus classes rather than on-line classes because they thought the incidence of Covid infections would be a lot less. Here’s a link to an article from Inside Higher Ed: www.insidehighered.com/news/2020/07/01/cornell-researchers-say-person-semester-university-safer-online-one
And the relevant section:
"Many universities have released statements about their intent to reopen. And every university leader ideally would like to invite students back to campus, since that’s what students say they want (and will pay for).

Cornell University joined the chorus of reopening statements on Tuesday in announcing that its Ithaca, N.Y., campus will be open for in-person instruction in the fall.

But for Cornell, one additional piece of information was “very important” in making that decision, according to Martha Pollack, the university’s president. That was the finding from Cornell researchers that holding the semester online potentially could result in more infections and more hospitalizations among students and staff members than holding the semester in person would.

A study by Cornell researchers concluded that with nominal parameters, an in-person semester would result in 3.6 percent of the campus population (1,254 people) becoming infected, and 0.047 percent (16 people) requiring hospitalization. An online semester, they concluded, would result in about 7,200 infections and more than 60 hospitalizations.

The conclusion rested on a few different assumptions. First, the study assumed about 9,000 Cornell students would return to Ithaca – even if there is no in-person learning or physical campus life.

Researchers concluded that during an in-person semester, asymptomatic testing is crucial for containing an outbreak and keeping the total number of infections low. When students live and take classes on campus, the university can enforce such a testing program with a variety of methods. For example, students who don’t get tested can lose access to residence halls or be locked out of their email accounts, said Peter Frazier, a data scientist and professor in Cornell’s School of Operations Research and Information Engineering, who led the study.

But when instruction is online, the university loses much of that ability to encourage and enforce testing.

“If we have a residential, on-campus semester, then we have the authority to put all kinds of expectations and requirements on our students,” Pollack said. “If we were only in an online basis, then it would be really difficult to impose regulations on students who happen to be living in Ithaca, as opposed to, say, happen to be living in Atlanta or San Francisco.” "

Burlington, VT

All your responses are great. Keep them coming. Also found a beach house near Eureka, CA. Beach front in Southern California is too expensive.

Melvin123 … I certain understand the fears of country folk . My kids’ NYC friends relocated to less crowded places. Some do not foresee the need to visit their NYC offices that often.

Melvin123 … Interesting finding at Cornell. Different takes on this. Swarthmore decided not to bring back juniors and seniors. Their neighbors to the north, Haverford and Bryn Mawr, decided to bring all students to campus. Those darned brainiacs at Swarthmore!

An inspection of Airbnb shows that New York lakes offer good values compared to beach towns and ski lodges.

Vermont may limit people coming in from the outside, since they have controlled their outbreak, but I may be wrong. I think that it’s a pretty town, though.

People from NYC are not that welcome in many of the less crowded places which mostly avoided large outbreaks. i don’t know how this manifests itself, though.

Eureka is a great place - beautiful, relatively isolated, and not a standard vacation spot. So long as internet service remains steady, the only downside is not being distracted by the surroundings. Personally, I would prefer Eureka or Arcata to anywhere in Southern California, especially now that the advantages of urban areas are so severely curtailed.

Of course, I love the beach, but not the ocean or sunbathing.

Haverford and Bryn Mawr (with their own fair share of brainiacs) haven’t released the details of the fall yet, other than to say they’re going back… and it could change at any time. Waiting on the details today, actually.