<p>please don't just list ivy leagues...</p>
<p>somewhere that i can learn a lot, maintain a 3.8 gpa, and gain experience and stuff to write books/papers/essays/articles on :)</p>
<p>do you think english professor or lawyer is a harder job market? i pretty much want to be one of those...</p>
<p>also how imporant is undergrad for those pursuing a PHD in english?</p>
<p>Top liberal arts colleges are going to have great english departments (Williams, Amherst, Middlebury) so a lot depends on your stats and whether you can get those. For a little less selective place Hamilton is quite writing-oriented and Kenyon is always mentioned for writing. If you actually want journalism then you need a bigger school like Northwestern. The lawyer job market isn’t great right now but I imagine that the English professor market is terrible. Just pursue what you like for now and decide later!</p>
<p>thanks 
i think i have a shot at williams…</p>
<p>and yeah haha i think it probably is… the two jobs i’m really interested in…</p>
<p>anyone have any idea of public universities with this? </p>
<p>liberal environments and honors with a LAC feel is always nice</p>
<p>Most state flagships have very good English depts. It’s part of that core curriculum you need for a university.</p>
<p>Chicago, Duke, UVA, Hopkins, Michigan, UNC, NYU, Northwestern.</p>
<p>Amherst, Williams, Swarthmore, etc.</p>
<p>If you “have a shot” at Williams, then you “have a shot” at the Ivy League schools, all of which have strong English departments.</p>
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<p>LOL. Law schools are crawling with English majors–and more than a few English Ph.D.s–who decided the academic job market was too tough. Not so much movement in the opposite direction, with unsuccessful lawyers seeking English Ph.D.s. I understand the job market for lawyers is pretty tough these days, too, but I suspect the success rate for law school grads seeking permanent, professional-level jobs is quite a bit higher than the success rate for newly minted English Ph.D.s landing tenure-track positions at colleges and universities.</p>
<p>Skidmore College has a formidable English Dept.</p>
<p>[Skidmore</a> College: English Dept. Home](<a href=“http://cms.skidmore.edu/english/]Skidmore”>http://cms.skidmore.edu/english/)</p>
<p>The job market for lawyers is poor right now because of the recession. The job market for PhDs in English seeking academic employment has been poor for the past forty years and shows no sign of improvement (quite the opposite, in my opinion). There’s really no comparison.</p>
<p>On the bright side for prospective students, the tight job market for English PhDs means that there are very smart faculty all over the place, not just clustered in a few top schools. </p>
<p>The tippy-top English Departments in the country are: 1) any of the Ivies 2) any of the top LACs, 3) many state flagships (Berkeley, Michigan, Virginia, UNC, Rutgers, Wisconsin, Illinois, UCLA, UC Irvine, Davis, Santa Barbara), and 4) any of the tier of Ivy-equivalent schools such as Chicago, Northwestern, Emory, Hopkins, etc. I thought it was very valuable to attend a university with an excellent PhD program (I went to Cornell) because it gave me more advanced curricular options and because the faculty were so heavily involved in top-flight research, which fed into their teaching. However, many people get fine educations at more teaching-focused LACs. Since you will ideally get a broad humanities education with plenty of foreign language, history, art history, etc.–not just take English courses–you would do well to pick an overall academically strong school. You want plenty of smart peers because most English courses, especially at the upper levels, are discussion based.</p>
<p>I’d also urge you not to pick a school on the basis of its strength in one major. Most undergrads switch majors at least once. Fortunately, most top universities and top LACs are strong in English and in a broad range of other disciplines.</p>
<p>Fordham University is particularly strong in liberal arts, which includes English, History, Political Science, Economics etc. Writing skills are prized at Fordham because you will write a TON of papers while there. They have an award winning Student Newspaper. They are also very strong in communications and place people at major networks very often. Fordham’s record for law school placement is very high. Plus, its New York…</p>
<p>Oh I just found out that Williams requires subject tests… that’s one of my big problems with top schools; my sat subject tests are baddd. and my extracurriculars are mediocre, and i’m only in the top 10%… yeah hahaha i probably don’t have a shot at willaims…</p>
<p>haha point taken bcclintonk & yeahh i will; i’m like 99% sure i’ll be majoring in the humanities though and they generally do go hand-in-hand</p>
<p>thanks for the info jingle</p>
<p>i’ll def check out skidmore & fordham</p>