<p>it's a theoretical exercise this year because SA recruitment and the full-time conversion rate will be abysmal across the street- revenue base drying up in terms of M&A activity, origination... driven by debt financing costs and reduced access to credit (e.g. Lev Fin/sponsors)</p>
<p>Harvard and Wharton were ~ 20% of my IB analyst class. It's unclear if that is because it's what firms desire or that's where the best candidates are found. As long as you go to a school that is recruited from, you should have an equal chance though and will still come down to personal presentation. To the extent that you don't go to a school that is recruited from, your work will be more cut out for you and will need to focus on contacting alums to give yourself a chance to get in; so it's tougher but not impossible, although the next couple years are likely to be especially difficult. </p>
<p>Very few people straight out of UG are able to get into HFs straight out of UG (especially those not from Harvard or Wharton), so will come down to doing well and making contacts once in the industry, and school attended will not matter that much. </p>
<p>In my several years on Wall Street and in IM, I've never seen the term, "hedge funding" before and am surprised that no one in 21 pages of posts mentioned that, unless I missed it.</p>
<p>someone posted this on another thread:</p>
<p>Ivy League
University of Pennsylvania: 12
Harvard: 8
Cornell: 7
Princeton: 6
Yale: 4
Columbia: 4
Dartmouth: 2
Brown: 0</p>
<p>Other Top Schools
NYU: 8
University of Chicago: 7
University of Virginia: 5
Michigan: 4
MIT: 4
Georgetown: 3
Berkeley: 3
UT - Austin: 3
Stanford: 2
Duke: 2
Rice: 2
Northwestern: 2
USC: 2
Notre Dame: 2
Washington University in St. Louis: 1
Tufts: 0
UCLA: 0</p>
<p>Liberal Arts Colleges
Williams: 5
Wellesley: 3
Smith: 2</p>
<p>***EDIT: sorry about the bump…didn’t realize how old this thread was</p>
<p>Yeah, yeah, yeah. Go violets!</p>
<p>NYU ftw.</p>
<p>That list for ML07 class, was it just the NYC office (i presume)?</p>
<p>thanks</p>
<p>what about U of I ? It is 10th in its finance by usnews. (although not as strong as its No.2 accounting) No.10 in finance should be ok right? can U of I(business college) be in any tier?</p>
<p>University of Illinois will be fine for Chicago, but I don’t know how well represented it is in NY</p>
<p>Well…how does U of Illinois (Buz College)do compare to Northwestern or U of Chicago then?</p>
<p>The thread explicitly asks for an undergraduate college, so please leave out references to grad schools of business. Here’s my take, based on factual verifiable evidence. </p>
<h1>1 Princeton. One way ticket into IB</h1>
<h1>2 Harvard: second only to Princeton</h1>
<h1>3 every other Ivy league school within the fall recruiting path of IB’s</h1>
<h1>4 top liberal arts colleges , such as Williams, Swarthmore, etc.</h1>
<p>Imeco200, care to provide your verifiable resources ?</p>
<p>Facts seems to differ with you. If you compare Princeton’s financial engineering program IB placement with Wharton’s placement, Princeton’s placement pales in comparison. This is more true in Princeton’s general population. ORFE is Princeton’s BEST program for getting into finance … so that says something. </p>
<p>Unlike you I will actually provide data:
<a href=“http://www.vpul.upenn.edu/careerservices/wharton/surveys/Wharton2008Report.pdf[/url]”>http://www.vpul.upenn.edu/careerservices/wharton/surveys/Wharton2008Report.pdf</a>
<a href=“http://orfe.princeton.edu/sites/default/files/placement.pdf[/url]”>http://orfe.princeton.edu/sites/default/files/placement.pdf</a></p>
<p>Everyone I have talked to in IB mentioned Wharton and Harvard being the top two places. Wharton sends more than any other school and Harvard is essentially equal. Princeton is not at the same level as those other two school. I have talked to former presidents of goldman sachs and former directors at lehman brothers because i was trying to decide where to apply.</p>
<p>It goes like this</p>
<h1>1 Wharton. One way ticket into IB</h1>
<h1>2 Harvard: second only to Wharton (actually probably tied with Wharton - the difference is almost imperceptible).</h1>
<h1>3 Princeton (more so than the others in this tire but NOT above the ones above), Yale, MIT, Stanford.</h1>
<h1>4 Penn (non-Wharton), Dartmouth, Columbia</h1>
<h1>5 Every other Ivy league school within the fall recruiting path of IB’s - Brown less so, Cornell more so.</h1>
<h1>A bunch of other schools.</h1>
<p>But this is kinda ■■■■■■■■. The fact of the mater is if you go to a great school and get great grades you WILL be sought after by IB. So that’s that.</p>
<p>Which is better: Finance Major from Penn Wharton or Econ-Math Major from Penn SAS?</p>
<p>Correlation is not causation. Simply going to Wharton does not make you a better candidate than someone at Princeton, Yale, Stanford, etc. Wharton simply attracts a student body that is, on the whole, more inclined to be interested in investment banking and therefore more inclined to build a profile and resume that prepares well for banking. If there are two equally qualified candidates, one from Wharton and another from Yale, the one from Wharton will not be given any sort of special treatment. Don’t assume that just going there automatically makes you a more qualified candidate. The top schools are viewed equally, and once you get an interview, all that matters is YOU, not your school.</p>
<p>Please rank the following:
Finance Major from Wharton
Econ-Math Major from Columbia
Econ-Math Major from Penn
Econ-Math Major from Swarthmore</p>
<p>^those are already in correct order.</p>
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<p>I agree with this post.</p>
<p>There is sooo much misinformation on this thread it is unbelievable haha. Its ok though, i was once in all of your shoes before. </p>
<p>Let me start off by saying, getting into IB is not as difficult as many of you believe, with good grades, networking, and decent work experience you all have a good chance of getting a job. </p>
<p>Let me start off by saying that all of these ranking systems are useless, each firm has their own set of schools they recruit more heavily from based on the strength of that schools alumni at the firm. </p>
<p>For instance, i interned at GS last summer and as I mentioned before there top Targets last summer were; (as in colleges with the highest representation for their North American Businesses)
Penn (Wharton and Non Wharton)
Duke
Cornell
Harvard
Boston College
Stanford
UTAustin</p>
<p>This this list will change drastically from firm to firm. The best thing as students you can do is to network as much as possible and use resources like WSO and the vault guide to position yourself to be the best candidate possible. As unfortunate as it may be for some of you who want to rely solely on the reputation of your school, recruiters do not look at rankings each year and then decide what schools they will recruit from.</p>
<p>A few questions – I’m considering transferring to another university for next fall, so I’m just trying to figure out where to transfer to better my chances for recruitment purposes. </p>
<p>How well do Berkeley Econ and Penn Econ place in IBD? Is the difference between recruitment for NU and Berkeley or Penn significant enough to merit the transfer? </p>
<p>Also, I was told that Haas doesn’t accept junior transfers, unless they’re from community colleges (something I really cannot understand). And Wharton doesn’t take very many transfers to begin with, so that’s out of the question as well.</p>
<p>How does economics in Cornell compare to the business major finance in Cornell for investment banking? And for future paths such as hedge funds? Private equity?
Which one is better for what? Or should I do both?</p>
<p>ixj, so are you saying that GS, which has had a long tradition of Princeton alumni at the top levels, did not recruit much at Princeton for the jobs straight out of undergrad schools, and instead searched at schools like Boston College, Duke and Univ. of Texas?</p>
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<p>Has anyone heard of Miami University of Ohio? We have one guy going to GS, one going to MS, and another going to Deutsche Bank for internships this summer (they are rising seniors).</p>
<p>I’m just curious as to whether or not it is completely off everyone’s radars.</p>