Black Parents: Was I Wrong About Lehigh U?

<p>After reading a zillion posts in another thread insisting I was wrong in my fear that Lehigh U's almost all-white student body was conservative to the point of racist, comes this article in today's Morning Call, the main newspaper of the Lehigh Valley (PA). </p>

<p>Lehigh</a> U. confronts campus racism -- themorningcall.com</p>

<p>It seems the redneck students of Lehigh couldn't stomach seeing Barack Obama win the presidency and decided to make life miserable for the handful of black students on campus. Lehigh's racial problems seem to persist, and no one seems to know what to do about it. Those kids (right wing types from New Jersey and Long Island, mostly) were steeped in John McCain lust (he had a couple of big rallies on campus during the campaign to zero rallies for Obama) they couldn't take losing to a black man. </p>

<p>What's the deal at this small private university in Pennsylvania? I don't think stuff like this happened, post-election, in Oxford, Mississippi.</p>

<p>My D wants to apply to this school (she thinks she can change the world), but after this latest series of incidents, I don't know if I can go along with it, and I'm writing the checks.</p>

<p>Why are you interested in Lehigh U? Unless there is an unusual, one of a kind spectacular program which you can't get elsewhere, I don't know why you are even interested in Lehigh? If diversity is important to you, then seek out a university where diversity is valued. For example, the U. of Maryland has a diversified population. Also, with the high cost of private university tuition, I don't know why you are focusing on a small private expensive university. Unless the parents work at Lehigh and provide tuition benefit, or there is an exceptionally fine academic program in a specific area of study, I don't know why the focus is on this school. Your daughter should be comfortable wherever she studies and you should not feel compelled to write a check for a school you don't see as the right fit.</p>

<p>Wow. I know that at Harvard, hundreds if not thousands of students - only a small percentage of them African-American - spilled out into Harvard Square and danced, sang and celebrated until dawn. What a difference.</p>

<p>YouTube</a> - SUNY Plattsburgh Celebrates Obama's Win!</p>

<p>This is how my S's college reacted once the election results came in. Please don't blame the problem on Long Island and New Jersey kids. It's not where they are from but who brought them up. SUNY's are full of LI kids. Click the link above and you will see how inspired these kids were. </p>

<p>Check out the faces in the crowd--it's great.</p>

<p>Wow.....just wow.....I am not shocked given the students I know who have chosen to attend Lehigh; but, yes, I am appalled (sorry for spelling if incorrect).....</p>

<p>The OP's parameters for his daughter's college are so narrow (geographically and in every other respect) that he basically has limited her to Lehigh (except that it is racist) with Oberlin a possible contender.</p>

<p>Momofwildhild: Please don't misrepresent me. I don't think the northeast is "narrow," given the number of colleges and universities in the region. Lehigh is a very selective private school whose undergrad business and engineering graduates get plum jobs at fat salaries from name companies. And the campus is 35 minutes from our house. Those two factors would be very attractive to anyone. Moreover, we've visted twice (she enjoyed the visits immensely), and they seem very interested in my D. Now I know why.</p>

<p>At Cornell, which probably has more Long Islanders than any other place outside of Long Island, Obama's victory was celebrated with an impromptu steet party, complete with fireworks. I heard about it from my daughter, a student there (who, as it happens, was extremely irritated by the noise because she was trying to get a decent night's sleep before an exam), and it was also mentioned in the school newspaper: Election</a> Excitement Grips C.U., Ithaca | The Cornell Daily Sun</p>

<p>Here's an article about the incident in the student newspaper. Students</a>, faculty pack auditorium after racist acts at Lehigh - News</p>

<p>Another article Gast</a> condemns reported racist acts on campus - News</p>

<p>From the opinion page Editorial:</a> Hatred is not a partisan issue - Opinion</p>

<p>Edit</a> desk: Black or white, what's the difference? - Opinion</p>

<p>^ditto for Syracuse University....I can't find the link, but the "Obamafest" spilled out onto both North and South campus throughout the night.</p>

<p>A college 35 minutes from home would not be very attractive to many people.
Your original thread specified very narrow parameters- the school had to be very diverse and liberal and quite close to home. If John McCain had ever been allowed on campus, it was a deal-breaker. Oh- also no Greek life.
I can certainly understand your concern with Lehigh, but don't claim to be relaxed on your parameters.</p>

<p>Another article from the student newspaper. Student waited up to 3 hours in line to vote, including the President of the University even though that was not reported in the newspaper. Obama</a> wins election and state - News</p>

<p>Most colleges have a decidedly liberal bent. Obama's success was met with joy. However, it does not take many bad apples to spoil a good sector of the barrel. It is NEWS when something like this occurs and will be reported. </p>

<p>Lehigh has made a concerted effort to attract students of color. It, among a number of schools, is predominantly "vanilla". When you have a college without much diversity, you are going to get a group there who are emboldened to do racist things. I am not excusing the kids there at Lehigh or anywhere who are part of such activities, but I do recognize they exist and feel freer to express themselves on a campus with less diversity. </p>

<p>This is a situation that students of color should know when they are considering schools. My close friend who is married to an African American very rarely talks about color , but when it comes to choosing a community, school, neighborhood for her family, this is a factor she takes into consideration. She noted this as she and her son toured colleges. Her son who has lived in such accepting environments all of his life is not as aware as his mother and father that there are many places that are down right bigoted. I don't know how whether this protection is all good for the kids, but this is the way it has been.<br>
If your student is like my friend's son, not prepared or aware of such bigotry, and not yet strong enough to endure and fight it, a school that is very diverse is probably a better environment for him. There is protection in numbers. However, I hardly think that Lehigh is a place where he will be ridiculed and discriminated against to the point of damage. There is a strong desire to make the university more diverse and the students as a whole and administration are making it an important goal to eliminate much of this racial fracas as possible. There is not a tolerance for the type of activities that occurred there, and much is being made of it. I don't see it as a simmering pot ready to boil over, but a few bigots on the loose, and frankly, they could have been at any college. It is, however, a fact that Lehigh is predominantly white as are most colleges, and is has even fewer students of color than a number of colleges in the north east. </p>

<p>I did not read your original thread, but I don't see much tolerance on your end if you don't want to consider a college that even allows McCain on campus. Intolerance can swing both ways. Though I voted for Obama, and have disdain for the McCain/Palin platform and choices, I gave them due consideration, and would not consider anyplace they spoke or were welcomed contaminated just by that fact. I thought Lehigh had Greek life too. A half hour from Easton, PA is not exactly fertile ground for diversity, I would think, either.</p>

<p>My friend's son loved Emory, UMiami, Occidental,. As you can see, they cast a wide net. If diversity is very important to you, find lists of those schools with the most diversity. I believe there is such a list out there. Schools that are heavy in engineering tend to be more conservative, I have found. City schools tend to be more diverse. </p>

<p>I know two African American students who went to Lehigh. One graduated and loved his experience there. The other did not, but not due to racial issues, and she transferred to Binghamton where she is very happy.</p>

<p>I do want to add that as an African American, no matter where your D may go, whether it is to the most color blind college or anyplace in the world, it is not going to be exempt from bigots. It is likely if not completely unavoidable that she will get racist remarks from some jerk or jerks. That is not to say that environment is racist. Bigots can move around and pop up anywhere. This is an issue that she really needs to know, as it will happen. To pretend the situation is otherwise is really sticking your head in the sand. Most colleges are intolerant of this sort of thing, especially those making the attempt to diversify their student body. Still a few worms do slip in. I would be more concerned in how an area reacts to such actions more than if such things happen. It doesn't take much for such things to happen and it is impossible to completely supress the bigots.</p>

<p>I currently go to Lehigh and I think I warned a member earlier about what goes on here. Not the best environment for minorities.</p>

<p>cptofthehouse makes some very excellent points.</p>

<p>If your daughter really wants to go to Lehigh - I think you should take a copy of this into the Lehigh administration. Start at the top, ask for an appointment with the President.
Hand over this article and tell them point blank that your daughter wants to go here but you won't foot the bill.</p>

<p>Then drive down to Philadelphia and look at Temple. </p>

<p>"Elite, Private" isn't everything. Lehigh isn't everything. One doesn't have to graduate from Lehigh to get a "plum" job in engineering. I think your daughter has far better opportunities of "changing the world" at Temple than at Lehigh.</p>

<p>College</a> of Engineering - Temple University</p>

<p>You could also look a bit farther west in the state if you want engineering. I remember Kerry had a rally at CMU back during the 2004 election, and most of the student population is apathetic enough towards politics that you won't be seeing any racism. There is a vocal minority that cares about politics, and if she wants to get involved with them, I'm sure they'd welcome her.</p>

<p>Probably the biggest conflict on campus is between the Palestinian and Israeli groups, but it's generally not very heated. And, heck, when the African American student organization invited a militantly anti-Semitic speaker on campus, the Palestinian students joined the Jewish ones to protest it.</p>

<p>Why not consider Cornell engineering if you want to stay on the East coast? Last year, I sensed that Cornell Engineering really wanted women and minorities. Why does your daughter need to stay close to home?</p>

<p>OP does not like Ithaca, it is not very upscale (I think ghetto is the word he used).</p>

<p>I don't understand. There are so many other options. Why Lehigh in light of all the red flags?</p>