Bored USC Student answering your questions (business & accounting double major)

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<p>I’m an international student in Shanghai who just got spring enrollment admission. I want to use the couple of months off to dive into an experience, like teach English or offer whatever service I can in some third-world country, or work as an intern in Shanghai Daily, or whatnot. But people keep on telling me that i should go to a community college just to keep up with the rest of USC, or else I graduate half a semester later than everyone else. </p>

<p>What should I do? I have six APs, and I was wondering if that could be a substitute for the first couple of months of USC curriculum. Or is community college the only way?</p>

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<p>"6. USC was renowned for its spoiled students. Is it still the case? "</p>

<p>I think he has been speaking with too many UCLA people.</p>

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<p>Here are my stats/EC’s…</p>

<p>I’ve currently completed about 30qtr units. Do they weigh your SAT/HS record at all when you apply as a transfer with more than 30sem units(which I will be doing since I’ll be applying with about 90qtr units)??</p>

<p>Stats:
College GPA-4.0
HS GPA -till grade 11-4.0 grade 12- 3.0(rough calculation, British syllabus so no W/UW)
SAT - 1350/1600,1900/2400(700-M 650-CR 550-W)</p>

<p>EC’s:
Captain varsity basketball team(top 3 in nation where I lived)+ numerous individual awards
Community Service approx. 150 hours
Student Gov’t Member
Written articles for magazines,newpapers etc
Quiz Club member(finalist/winner in many quizzes,appeared on tv as a semi finalist in a quiz too)
Coached HS basketball</p>

<p>Hopefully I’ll have a 4.0 by the time of my application with 62 or so semester units.</p>

<p>Just wanted to know if anyone could give me an idea of best/worst case scenario that I can expect for fin.aid next year(applying for Fall '11). Assume I can’t pay anything. I am an international transfer student looking to major in Econ…perhaps major/minor in Econ/Kinesiology.</p>

<p>Thanks for the help guys!</p>

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<p>Thanks for all the great- and honest- info. I don’t want to know your specific fraternity, but like others, am wondering about the hazing that takes place among the fraternities. Also- does being from out of state make you feel out of place?</p>

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<p>How hard is it to double major in Business Admin and Accounting?
I’m leaning towards Business Admin but couple of people have been telling me to major Accounting b/c it has a better job market/future in the business world, like how management cant do accounting, but accountants can also do management</p>

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<p>My son just finsihed pledging Sigma Chi. They do not haze in the traditional sense of the word. He was a Spring Admit and rushed in the spring.</p>

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<p>cherryjmm:

  1. as it is with everything in college, how much effort you put into something is how much you will get out of it. after my first semester at USC, i quickly realized that I wanted to only take the easiest GE classes, if possible, no matter what the topic and that is precisely what I did. Some people choose their GE classes to what sounds interesting, which looking back is what I should have done. Therefore, only my first GE class that I ever took left me with a deep impression. It was called Evolution vs. Creation and taught by Professor Levine. I do not think they ever offered it again, but that class was very interesting.
  2. When you start your core classes for your first 2 years you can have classes as big as 150 people. But after that the class average is around 50.
  3. I took five classes every semester. Now, are you talking about 5 normal classes? Most people take 4-4unit classes and a 1 or 2 unit class for fun. If you are thinking about taking 5-4 unit classes, that is ridiculous in my opinion and unnecessary. You also have to pay for 2 units and this semester USC charged $1399/per unit.
  4. Process of getting an internship is pretty easy. Its all a matter of networking and getting to know the recruiters. My first internship after my 2nd year consisted of a phone interview in which a USC alumni talked to me about the state of our football team for 30 minutes then preceded to give me an internship. My other ones were a little harder with formal interviews, but there is plenty to go around. Most require a cover letter and resume, then they will select you for an interview or not.</p>

<p>Discussion: No problem, and I am glad to hear you chose USC. Do you want to transfer into Leventhal and have accounting as your major or double-major? Since Leventhal and Marshall students take the same core classes for the first two years, you have 2 years to make the discussion to focus solely on accounting or double majoring. The great thing about Leventhal is that since it is part of Marshall it is really easy to transfer, simply a matter of filling 1 page form. I declared accounting at the end of my 3rd year at USC, so you can do it anytime. Business floor is only relevant to Marshall students because everybody there is a business major and you will most likely be taking classes together. That being said, there were many international students on the business floor. as far as where most marshall students say at, there is no one place. Marshall is the second largest major at USC, so you will find a marshall student at every housing option. Yes, it is possible to get a job in Wall Street after getting a degree in Marshall. Is it a lot harder? Yes to that question too. It all depends on your motivation and go-getter attitude which will determine where you work. Nothing is impossible.</p>

<p>Wakebrdr051: Every frat is different with rushing and initiation. Do frats at USC haze? Yes, but not physically hazing that you are probably thinking of. Hazing could be something like an active calling you at 2am and telling you to drop off some burgers or something. Does binge drinking happen during the pledge process? Yes. Like I said, every frat is different and there are some that don’t binge drink, but in the end everything you do is all about bonding and brotherhood with your fellow pledges, which you will realize at the end. Its up for you to check out all the frats and decide which one fits your personality the best.</p>

<p>jusinlun:

  1. in terms of class choice, there is no difference except you might be one semester behind your peers. Graduation date, if you come in with units, then you will most likely graduate with your classmates. Dorms is where you get screwed the most. They will most likely put you far from campus and that sucks a lot as a freshmen, but you got to put up with it.</p>

<ol>
<li>Hell yes. if you want to stay with your peers or even get ahead of them, definitely take some CC classes. Any CC will do. Go to USC’s articulation website to see which courses transfer from whichever CC you choose.</li>
<li>Look at the Marshall Website or call them.</li>
<li>China has the most alumni out of any other country, HK in particular. Every field is covered. I have many HK friends who are going back to HK after they graduate in many different majors.</li>
<li>Chinese is most of the most prominent cultures at the school.</li>
<li>Really?? stupid questions don’t get answered.</li>
<li>Yes USC is academically rigorous. This is an elite college. Don’t you want it to be rigorous if you are paying this much money for an education?</li>
<li>Prepare to have the best 4 years of your life.</li>
</ol>

<p>Iamben: Ben, I’m assuming, do what you want. Don’t let people tell you what to do. If you don’t take classes, you can still easily graduate with your peers. Marshall takes 6 semesters or 3 years to graduate taking the normal full courseload, like I did. I did not bring in 6 APs liek you did but still did it in 3 years.</p>

<p>Beezer: No problem. Look to my post above about hazing in frats. 50% of the students here are not from California. 4 out of my 5 roommates are out of state. you will not feel out of place. I promise.</p>

<p>Jimmyshq: Its pretty hard, but not difficult. Actually only accounting is hard. haha. Why not do both like I did? It is very easy to double major, you just have to have motivation for it. All my roommates who just did business took 2 classes a semester and chilled all year, while I was taking 4 classes a semester and actually studying. Double majoring is not hard, its all about to you my friend. Screw the people telling you stuff and just do both.</p>

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<p>Seems like there are a lot of Marshall questions as new topics. </p>

<p>JUST ASK ME IN HERE. I WILL GUARANTEE I CAN ANSWER ALL YOUR QUESTIONS.</p>

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<p>Hi boreduscstudent,</p>

<p>What are some of the easy G.E. classes and good professors? </p>

<p>Also, regarding Greek life, I heard every girl who wants to get into a sorority can, but guys don’t always get into a frat. I know someone who rushed as a freshman this year and didn’t get into one frat. Seems harsh. </p>

<p>Finally, heard all the parties are mostly Greek and a guy has to be in a frat to go (yet any girls, even those not in a sorority, can go). Is that true? Is there a social life (parties) for those guys not in frats?</p>

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<p>Hello boreduscstudent! :slight_smile:
I am applying to transfer to Marshall this fall, so it’s great to read all your helpful posts!
I have a few questions. I just got accepted by Haas yesterday, and many of my friends are telling me to forget about USC…but, I don’t know…
I am a business administration major, but lately I am thinking about focusing on accounting because it’s more specialized. I know that USC has a great accounting program so I might choose marshall over haas for it. However, I am not EXACTLY sure that I love accounting. (Since I only took 2 courses during these past two years at my community college) I would say that comparing accounting and economincs, I did like accounting classes more, but I am not sure when it comes to the advanced level. Do you enjoy taking accounting classes? Is it possible to keep a decent GPA in those courses?
Seeing you with a double major in business and accounting, I figure it might be a good option for me, do you think so? But I am not sure how hard and competitive it is to do a double major in business and accounting.
I am just hoping to hear from comments from you, what do you think about Haas vs. Marshall? and doing a double major in business and accounting like you?</p>

<p>Also, I am wondering about living on campus. I prefer to have a single room and there is a kitchen somewhere to cook. So probably not the dorms with roommates and with meal plans required. I am a transfer student, is there some kind of apartment where I can live with other students but have my own room? (So I can meet people and not feeling alone) I also have a car, so is there anywhere to park my car? Is there any such housing option?</p>

<p>Thank you! :))</p>

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<p>I just wanted to drop a quick note in here saying that finals start on Wednesday, meaning that even bored USC students will probably be busy studying (or “studying”) and be slow in responding.</p>

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<p>Good Luck on finals! I hope you will still answer questions when they are over! We are from OC too and my rising senior son will be considering USC along with a whole host of other schools. His stats are comparable to yours so I think USC will be a good fit. Also, living in OC i see how strong the USC family is and I think if this is where you want to live it would be hard to pass up USC. I want him to love it when he goes on his tour- which we haven’t scheduled yet and probably won’t until next year when classes are back in session. He’s going to want to sit in on a class and speak to someone- did you do this? Which class did you sit in on? Did that influence your decision? If you were designing the perfect campus tour, what would it look like?</p>

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<p>Oh, one other question. I noticed that there is a business major with a minor in film production? Do you know very much about that program?</p>

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<p>Not sure where boreduscstudent is, but I can take a stab at a few of the questions before I head off to Leavey to study. And just if you’re wondering if I’m “qualified” to answer these question, I’m a sophomore triple majoring in business admin, accounting, and sociology, so Marshall questions I should be mostly okay to answer, but ask me about SCA and I may not know.</p>

<p>mustknow:

  1. There are tons of good professors in the GE, but there are also really bad ones. I’d say ask around based on what categories you’re planning on taking to see what classes are good. Also ratemyprofessors is GENERALLY pretty helpful, though occasionally it can be wrong too.</p>

<p>2) As I’m not Greek, I can’t answer this with 100% certainty, but I can tell you what I BELIEVE is the truth regarding the rush process. For sororities, during rush process, they have to interview with every house and they will get at least one bid if they make it through the whole thing (which I have heard can be a bit gruesome). However, that is not to say that they will necessarily get a bid from their top choice, but they will get one from SOME house. As for the fraternities, they DON’T go to every house for that same interview process. Instead, they have a rush week where they can go to any house they want and meet the chapter and then they do some kind of activity (go to a sports game, paintballing, etc). Then later on in the week, each fraternity has a blue chip dinner where they invite certain people to go to some nice restaurant and get to know them better. Then there’s the “final” cut where they actually give you a bid to pledge the fraternity. So yes, there is a possibility that you won’t get a bid if you’re in a fraternity if you spend all your time with one fraternity and they don’t give you a bid. I do believe, however, that they’ve created a “second round” of bids where people who didn’t get bids or don’t want to pledge the fraternity where they got a bid can try and get a bid from another house. Not sure on that process though.</p>

<p>3) Yes, a lot of the social life in terms of parties does revolve around the row, but not all of it. Some people have parties in their dorms, though those aren’t as easy to hold because of DPS. House parties are fairly common too, but you generally need to know someone who lives there or is going. It’s just that the Row is the easiest way of going without necessarily knowing anyone there. But yeah, there are lots of other parties, it’s just that you can’t go as unanimously. And the whole “myth” about guys not being able to get in is sorta true, but not entirely. If you know guys in the house, then they can usually get you in. Also, if you bring a lot of girls with you, then you can normally get in too. The only exceptions is if it’s a registered party, then you might have an issue as a guy.</p>

<p>eva82409:
As I haven’t started my upper division accounting classes, I’m not going to comment on that. However, Leventhal has a great program that you definitely can’t go wrong with. As a transfer, I’m not sure how easy it is to double major in business and accounting. Generally, it’s not too difficult as many of the classes overlap, but it’ll really depend on how your classes transferred over. I’d recommend talking with a Marshall or Leventhal advisor to determine how feasible it’d be to double major. Generally I too would agree that Haas is better than Marshall, but Marshall isn’t a nothing school and is a great school with a great business program. There’s a lot of support here and competition isn’t anything that you would need to worry about too much as most people are generally willing to help you out.</p>

<p>And as for the housing question, USC does have apartment buildings that are off campus (though only a few blocks away), so you could definitely get a single. Almost all the apartments have a parking lot near them, but remember you need to apply to get them :)</p>

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<p>I need to go now, but if boreduscstudent doesn’t answer your question by the time I’m back from Leavey, I’ll answer it then 2flipper2.</p>

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<p>2flipper2:
I personally didn’t sit in on any classes, so I can’t really say if it’s worth it or not. As for the film program, I think you mean the Business Cinematic Arts program. It’s actually not a business major with a film production minor, rather it’s just a business major with an emphasis in cinematic arts. So instead of concentrating in something like marketing, finance, etc, you study cinematic arts. This includes classes in cinema, television, and video games.</p>

<p>Here is a link with a description of the program and the classes needed.
<a href=“http://www.marshall.usc.edu/assets/093/17686.pdf[/url]”>http://www.marshall.usc.edu/assets/093/17686.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>If you have further questions about it, feel free to ask me as my sister did the program and I have a few friends in it currently so I can try and find any information for you. However, I do not believe that SCA offers a minor in film production if your son wants a true minor in it.</p>

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<p>Wow reading this thread makes me confident that I picked Marshall over the other schools I got into. The only way I wont attend is if I get admitted of UChicago’s waitlist (Il prolly be doing econ there)</p>

<p>Good job boreduscstudent</p>

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<p>Hello boreduscstudent,
I just called the marshall admission to ask about doing a double major in business and accounting as a transfer student. They told me that it’s definitely possible, but it may require longer time to finish up all the classes. I asked him how much longer, the guy answered it may take 1 year more.
Is this true? Does that mean I will spend another 3 years at USC (2 years already in the community college already) for doing a double major in accounting and business?
Do you think it worths it? and how hard is it…?
I also have a question about financial assistance, as an international student, I am not eligible for some federal aids, but I heard that USC offers different kinds of scholarships to students. Do you know the chances of receving some kinds of financial aid as an international studnet? </p>

<p>Thanks!</p>

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<p>Do you think I could double major in something like print journalism and business administration and still graduate in 3/4 years? I am bringing a few AP credits in.</p>

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<p>Is it possible to double major in Business and a major from another school (Arts & Letters) like East Asian Studies?</p>

<p>If I’m a transfer, should I apply to transfer to Marshall or College of Arts & Letters?</p>