<p>I got prescribed ritalin when i was younger and used it to help me concentrate enough to finish high school, instead of dropping out.</p>
<p>it helps to work hard on school work or other activities. i would have made it without it and used it rarely- i hated the disgusting taste of ass it puts in your mouth, and how it kills your appetite and encourages insomnia.</p>
<p>some times i would crush it up and sniff it. very nasty.</p>
<p>lmao it is not hard to find!!</p>
<p>just go to craigslist and do a search in “wanted / for sale” items. of course that’s in NYC</p>
<p>Meth and amp are on a biochemical level, pretty crude drugs because they agonise/antagonise such broad-spectrum neurotransmitters. I suppose they suffice in our day and age. </p>
<p>But suppose you had a specialised drug, carefully designed to avoid side effects. Won’t trigger action potentials that lead to a paranoid fight-or-flight response; will hit the right synapses and the right circuits precisely. Made you receptive to learning in just the right places. Primed your NMDA receptors in the right circuits of the frontal cortex … selectively activated certain serotonin cascade pathways relevant to intellectual learning and long-term potentiation, rather than say, causing a gushing of serotonin effects everywhere all over the brain. </p>
<p>Then, what would be the issue? It would be the perfect mind-enhancing drug. Transhumanism FTW.</p>
<p>Pushin30:
I am completely averse to your rhetoric. Thus far you have incorporated both: a) ad hominem attacks, and b) “straw-man” type arguments. I think if we’re going to discuss an important social issue we should do it in a sophisticated and non-aggressive way.
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<p>Here in a top-20 school in Georgia addies are quite widespread. Premeds, B-schoolers, any major…drugs don’t discriminate.</p>
<p>I’m still finding it so wierd that kids are taking drugs for studying as opposed to recreation.</p>
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Awesome job disguising what school you’re referring to.</p>
<p><em>wink wink</em></p>
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These neuroenhancers don’t make you smarter, don’t teach you anything. They simply allow you to stay up longer and concentrate better. In the end, you’re still studying and learning, the difference is you can get things done faster. I haven’t tried them but I’m not morally opposed to them. I have a feeling people morally opposed to them major in things like fashion design and/or don’t have jobs/internships in addition to classes.
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<p>So, just saying, perhaps you should be more considerate about what you write.
I am particularly interested in fashion design and enjoy studying fashion history and how it intertwines with historical movements and reflects art. What I am interested in studying has no bearing on my intelligence and I take offense to the implications of what you have said in your post. </p>
<p>Yes, I am interested in fashion design. </p>
<p>I am also interested in history, have placed nationally in historical research competitions. I am part of National Honor Society, Mu Alpha Theta, various school honor societies, have taken a total of 11 AP courses and 20+ Honors courses, am the Editor in Chief of my school newspaper, have a 4.2 GPA, and have 2260/1530 SATs (with an 800 CR score) </p>
<p>I am considering Tufts and UVA for a history/english major, but i am currently leaning towards a Fiber Science and Apparel Design major at Cornell. Yes, Cornell University.</p>
<p>Just because I would like to study something that I am passionate about does not mean that I should be subjected to the ridiculous stereotypes implied by your post. </p>
<p>Would you be so kind as to please explain to me what majoring in fashion design has to do with being morally opposed to the use of neuroenhancing drugs? Perhaps I’m missing something here, but I see no apparent linkage…</p>
<p>Alright, done ranting. </p>
<p>I do not think that the use of these drugs is morally incorrect. However, I do think that their growing popularity is frightening. Our society is already so fast paced and jam packed, the use of these drugs would simply continue to encourage this path to a point where nobody will ever have time for anything.</p>
<p>@alamode - It’s funny how you started rambling to me about your life, personal history, passions, additional interests, potential colleges, GPA, SAT score, AP Exams, and Extracurriculars based on a comment. This is not a college application, I’m not an Admissions Counselor…</p>
<p>No, I didn’t mean to imply people of that major are dumb but if you take that quote out of context it sounds like that. My point was people in majors with more memorization are generally more likely to abuse ADD drugs, based on what i’ve noticed. I used Design as an example of something that doesn’t involve a ton of memorization, which applies to a lot of subjects. If design does involve a ton of memorization and reading dense material, I apologize as I didn’t know. Stop ranting and just relax. No one’s calling you stupid. Put your resume away.
If you want to know my opinion on the use of these drugs, I’ve made a couple comments in this thread.</p>
<p>Bump. I found this thread interesting, wouldn’t want to see it die…yet.</p>
<p>kids at my high school use it for final exams… I don’t, yet. I’m the type that asks: why not me? has anyone actually known anyone to have an “adverse reaction”?</p>
<p>I say use it one subject’s final exam per semester. max.</p>
<p>are piracetams really that effective though?</p>
<p>AFAIK they just give you more mental energy and confidence … they’re not really sophisticated drugs. They also tend to work via dopamine and norepinephrine pathways, which are reward and stress-response neurotransmitters respectively, and less via serotonin and LTP pathways (memory-related). You really should think of em as stimulants for mental energy, nothing more. They can do miraculous things, but only if you <em>do</em> the work.</p>
<p>I expect we might might have the ability to produce more sophisticated study drugs soon … but what company wants to invest in them?</p>
<p>I’ll stick with weed thank you very much.</p>
<p>I use adderall occasionally, but I really do think I have ADD. I have not been diagnosed with it, but is it possible for one to develop ADD in their early 20’s?
For example, say I’m doing homework. A random thought pops into my brain. Let’s say all of a sudden I think of something totally random, like the A-Team. I will then have to go look up the A-Team on Wikipedia, then I look up Mr T. and George Peppard, then I look up the Seinfeld episode where they talk about George Peppard, then I start Youtubing Mr. T’s phone commercials. One random thought can branch off and lead into a 45-minute long “research session” on the internet. So much for homework.</p>
<p>I think part of it is that I’m really anal retentive, I never can let a thought go.
Or maybe I just have an overactive brain.
And I think I really do have ADD, when I’m on adderall I can keep my mind focused on one thing, and prevent it from branching out. Going to try to get a prescription this summer.</p>
<p>thejuice - Certainly worth looking into. That’s similar to what I’m like, and I have ADD.</p>
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<p>Is this really ADD? Because I do the same thing, maybe it’s just natural? Would you get attention problems if you were to go to the library and do your studying there?</p>
<p>Think of ADHD as there’s a buzz of a television with all channels playing at once. It’s so foggy and loud you just can’t think (though, you also can’t pick up any of these other channels.) The main thing with ADHD is that it slows you down. You’ll be reading a sentence and somehow its just gone when you reach the end. Same can happen if you’re talking with someone face to face! If you forget what’s going on when it’s being processed you automatically move on the something else. The procrastination is more due to the avoidance behavior because everything takes so darn long to process (no, thinking of that last episode of Family Guy during a Chemistry test is not why ADHD kids can get extended time.)</p>
<p>thejuice- And no, it cannot suddenly occur in your 20s. It has to have recognizable symptoms from childhood. And if it was ADHD the thought would easily be let go… lol</p>
<p>And yes, brain scans between ADHD and and others are different! If I remember correctly more areas light up to process the same thing? I really can’t remember, it was a general psych book years ago.</p>