<p>“The reason why you’re getting this reaction, monydad, is …”
because you are thin-skinned homers who cannot tolerate anyone mentioning anything whatsoever postive about another school? In fact I said one thing positive about Cornell, and nothing critical about Brown at all. If you think it is an insult to point out one thing positive about Cornell, when in fact it is, you will just have to be unhappy.</p>
<p>"…it is insulting "
Whatever insult you perceive is in your own head, it was nothing I said.</p>
<p>.“…and I never posted any numbers”
poster kylerblood posted “numbers”, in post # 10, and they were wrong.</p>
<p>“[C]onsequently[,] Cornell’s student body obviously has a much more diverse range of academic interests and characteristics. Many ultimately find the existence of the varied colleges to be a benefit. . . . But others may alternatively prefer more homogeneity.”</p>
<p>To understand that as something positive about Cornell but neutral about Brown is ridiculous. No one misunderstands (except you, if we’re to believe you) your cute little “oh, I’m not saying anything bad about Brown, it’s great for people who like homogeneity” self-dialogue as anything other than what it is: shilling.</p>
<p>Again, that is your own interepretation, not mine. In fact, Cornell is frequently criticized for the heterogeneity of its student body, particularly as it impacts the range of aggregate test scores for the university taken as an aggregate, by people who attend more homogeneous schools, with more uniform admissions profiles, and prefer that.
I express no opinion on whether social heterogeneity is better than social homogeneity, I think reasonable people may differ on that point.
I noted that there is some difference, I did not “rank” which is better. Personally I don’t know that it is necessarily “better” to be socially heterogeneous, FWIW. I think it’s a point on which reasonable people may differ.</p>
<p>If you think heterogeneity is obviously superior, well that’s definitely +1 for Cornell. But that’'s your own value system talking, not necessarily mine, much less anyone else’s. That’s on you not me. I noted some differences I was aware of, people may variously weigh them, and undoubtedly other factors, as they see fit.</p>
<p>“If you think heterogeneity is obviously superior, well that’s definitely +1 for Cornell.”</p>
<p>Again, you are so adorable. I think it’s obvious to everyone here what you do when you argue, but it seems like you might not be aware, so let me help you:</p>
<ol>
<li><p>Start from an uncontested premise, like “heterogeneity is good”, but pretend it’s contested.</p></li>
<li><p>Define one of the words in your premise to favor Cornell. So, for example, redefine heterogeneity to favor inclusion of less qualified applicants but not to penalize frat-iness.</p></li>
<li><p>Wave your hands and say: “Therefore, if you are pro-heterogeneity, you’ll of course prefer Cornell! Duh!”</p></li>
<li><p>Faux-cut-back on your own argument by saying: “Of course, if heterogeneity is not really your deal, then you could think about a place like Brown.”</p></li>
</ol>
<p>For the record, as long as you keep on spouting garbage in a place where kids are making a real earnest effort to figure out where to go to school, I’m going to keep calling you out on it.</p>
<p>Nothing I said is garbage. It is all true. People evaluating where to go to school should evaluate these real differences between the schools. IMO.</p>
<p>I looked through monydad’s posts and he’s doing this on multiple threads at different schools. Really I think we should just ignore him at this point. He sets his argument by picking out only what he wants to defend, ignoring the other points, to make his argument sound stronger. He also seems to be ignoring the fact that we’re acknowledging Cornell as a fantastic school. I have been everything but offensive. I’ve been trying to defend Brown for you, monyday, are trying to make Brown seem like a terrible school. At this point, I’m not trying to beat you, but rather for you to just leave this place (and as extension, all the other threads you’ve hi jacked) and go back to the Cornell forum. It’s just really unnecessary…</p>
<p>I said nothing that would suggest Brown is a terrible school, where do you get this stuff. Is “hijacking” the same as precisely addressing the question raised by the thread? Because that’s what I did.</p>
<p>I am addressing Brown vs. Cornell. Some of you are addressing the precise phraseology of my posts, and parsing exactly what I intended at some deeper level.</p>
<p>Well, Cornell is much stronger than Brown by research quality- no question about it. In every objective measure of faculty impact, Cornell ranks much higher than Brown.</p>
<p>Nobel Prizes:
Cornell 42, Brown 7</p>
<p>Members of the National Academy of Sciences
Cornell 34, Brown 7</p>
<p>Members of the National Academy of Engineering
Cornell 26, Brown 3</p>
<p>That said, Brown offers excellent undergraduate training for motivated students. Indeed, there are many talented students at Brown.</p>
<p>^It’s important to note that Cornell does employ a little more than 3 times the faculty that Brown does, for a fair comparison.</p>
<p>I personally have never been impressed with the more renowned professors at Brown, but that likely varies by professor and probably is not correlated to the actual fame.</p>
<p>No doubt about it: Brown is “hot” (USNWR notwithstanding), but it is in no way academically superior to Cornell, which boasts more renowned faculty and a more rigorous curriculum (touting the attendance of a movie star as proof of Brown’s superiority is naive: one might argue that they want to go to a place where they won’t have to work too hard, so as to balance with their lucrative film career). To give an historic perspective, Brown now is like Tufts a couple of decades ago- hot, but without quite the substance to put it up there with the top.</p>
<p>^The above is completely unsourced dribble. Unaccessible renown faculty have nothing to do with academic superiority, and the attendance of an entertainer who has put her career on hold and who had demonstrated tremendous success in high school does little to support the ridiculous idea that Brown’s curriculum is unrigorous just because it doesn’t provide a series of poorly-designed crutches for students to lean on.</p>