<p>Yeah, no fair teasing us. Come clean, or we won’t tell you whether Harvard or Brown is the right answer.</p>
<p>I’d have a tough time turning down Columbia personally, because I love NYC and the campus. That said, I’d probably go to Harvard if I did.</p>
<p>@ vociferous, I visited Columbia. && New York just wasn’t for me. Oh well. To each its own. I wanted to love it, but I just didnt see myself there. </p>
<p>i definitely can’t tell the event. (for privacy purposes)
but i think i know where i want to go. i just need to meditate on my decision & see if I still feel the same way.</p>
<p>honeyjay you have some GREAT options so if you weren’t feeling Columbia, by all means choose the place you were “feeling” you really CANNOT go wrong. Good luck and good job!</p>
<p>Another city girl here, in a situation similar to OP’s: Brown, Columbia and Amherst, with a strong inclination to humanities.</p>
<p>I think your case is quite simple here: if you value undergrad education quality more than anything and want to be happy, go to Brown; otherwise Harvard’s name, connection and location overshadows Brown with no doubt.</p>
<p>dear conniekang,</p>
<p>go to brown or amherst
columbia’s core was crazy</p>
<p>I learned on CC that the private colleges comprising the 5 college consortium of which Amherst is a part have a combined M-F ratio of 1 to 6.7 , and the women from Smith & Mount Holyoke swarm to Amherst parties.</p>
<p>I hesitate to even mention it though, since I know you guys are above such petty issues that are dwarfed by the life of the mind.</p>
<p>As an Amherst student who attends just about every party sponsored by the College, I tell you that you wrong. </p>
<p>I hesitate to mention that you have no idea what you’re talking about, because doing so would be a petty gesture on my part–so, I won’t. ;)</p>
<p>it’s true, I don’t know what I’m talking about, I just read posts by Amherst students. “I just report the news, I don’t make it”.</p>
<p>Go take issue with CC poster and Amherst student Catfish, at least one of the places I read this (not the only one):
<a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/amherst-college/453424-whats-social-scene-like-amherst.html?[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/amherst-college/453424-whats-social-scene-like-amherst.html?</a></p>
<p>You disagree with him, duly noted.</p>
<p>Here’s CC poster amherst08 weighing in on the subject :
“On the party/social level, all five college students- Smith and Mount Holyoke girls in particular-come to Amherst parties,…”</p>
<p>Another post from Amherst student Catfish:
"As a straight guy at Amherst, you definitely see a beneficial tilt in the guy/girl ratio from the large numbers of women from Smith and Mount Holyoke who come to Amherst parties. I assume it’s because us Amherst guys are so darn good looking. <em>cough</em> "</p>
<p>A post by Amherst student Lemonjello:
"Girls from Smith and Mt. Holyoke do tend to come to Amherst on weekend nights, especially when there are big parties planned. "</p>
<p>Here’s a good one from CC poster and Amherst student blazianazn:</p>
<p>"Social life is… an interesting subject. I’ll try and give you the most brutally honest answer I can. There are a lot of Smith and Mt. Holyoke girls on the Amherst campus on weekends. As a whole, they are regarded as ‘desperate’, ‘male-hungry’ women looking to score and spend the night. Sucks, I know, but that’s stereotyping for you. There’s the semi-known saying that goes around “Smith girls you marry, Holyoke girls you hook up with, Amherst girls you talk to”… whatever that means to you. Basically… the women from the all-female schools tend to be a little objectified in our neck of the woods, but that kind of reverses poetically when guys are at MHC or Smith.</p>
<p>Hope I helped. "</p>
<p>Oh you helped, blazianazn, you certainly did.</p>
<p>Here’s Amherst student Lemonjello’s response:</p>
<p>"Blazianazn is definitely right about the perception of Holyoke and Smith girls at Amherst, although that is probably not entirely fair. "</p>
<p>And Blazianazn responds:</p>
<p>“Yea, the perception of the Smith and MHC girls isn’t fair at all, but it’s absolutely true.”</p>
<p>Ooh, a little dig there, sounds like that Amherst woman is not entirely thrilled with the situation, doesn’t it?? That’s how I read it, anyway.</p>
<p>Amherst woman unregistered disagrees with you too:
"Yes, they come to our school for parties…often. "</p>
<p>Seconded by, yet again, Catfish, who is clearly having a better time there than you are:
“I’ll just second what unregistered said. It’s one of the major benefits of the consortium.”</p>
<p>But at least, for counterpoint, unregistered is cool with it:
"No, it’s great for us. I’ve made some wonderful friends at Smith and Mt. Holyoke, and for Amherst girls really interested in expanding their dating options, there are ten thousand males to choose amongst, "</p>
<p>here she must be looking to U Mass for companionship, sounds like a more theoretical number than actual. To continue:</p>
<p>"…and I know that both UMass and Hampshire have some gems…sure, we don’t have dozens of scantily clad males coming to our campus every weekend, but we can bond over joking about the females who do so. It is a fun place to go to school. "</p>
<p>Another quote from the amherst subforum, that seems like it may be relevant here:</p>
<p>“It does not matter how many fish swim in your sea, if you do not know how to catch one.”</p>
<p>-Sun Tzu</p>
<p>I’m sure I can find more, but that’s quite enough for now.
the point is, yes I do not know, I read it from amherst students who posted here.</p>
<p>"combined M-F ratio of 1 to 6.7 "</p>
<p>So, for every male there are 6.7 females???</p>
<p>So kwu, to be very clear, are you stating here that the posted statements
of amherst posters:
Catfish
amherst08
Lemonjello
blazianazn
unregistered</p>
<p>are all wrong? Because that sort of puts readers in a conundrum, whether to believe the five of those Amherst posters or the one of you Amherst poster.</p>
<p>By the way, there are undoubtedly more.</p>
<p>Or are you saying that I substantively misrepresented the gist of their statements in my post #67 ? In which case, readers can read the exact words of these posters in # 69 & #70 and decide for themselves the extent to which I mistated the substance of these posts.</p>
<p>"So, for every male there are 6.7 females??? "
Yes. That’s what someone posted, I haven’t verified, you can compute yourself.
My recollection was it was for the private colleges of the consortium, but apparently it excludes Hampshire, it was Amherst + Smith + Mount Holyoke. Prospective amherst women can decide for themselves the extent to which the ratio they are interested in (if any) should include Hampshire or U Mass. There are certainly guys at U Mass. And Hampshire. As poster unregistered noted. The 6.7 stuck in my head because I read it on CC and it was the ratio I thought might be most relevant when my D2 was thinking of transferring someplace. YMMV.</p>
<p>UMass is 50:50 M:F out of about 18,000 undergrads
Hampshire 40:60 M:F, 1400 undergrads
Amherst : 52:48 M:F, 1600 undergrads
Smith 100% F, 2600 undergrads
Mt. Holyoke 100% F, 2100 undergrads</p>
<p>I think you mean one female for every .67 males. </p>
<p>Total is about 10,400 males, and 15,300 females, as best as I can figure. Once you factor in the females at all colleges that are not on the open market due to having someone back home, wanting to meet a Williams, Dartmouth, or Yale guy, or not being an enthusiastic heterosexual, I’d say the sexual landscape is roughly 50:50 M:F</p>
<p>All of those representatives of Amherst are correct, and you cite them as they have spoken honestly. But, read what they have written yourself: indeed, women from Mount Holyoke and Smith do come to Amherst to party. However, they don’t come in immense droves, as hoards of flesh-hungry demons, as you seem to suggest with that irrelevant statistic: 6.7:1. </p>
<p>You’re overestimating the Five College Consortium–this isn’t a Columbia-Barnard sort of situation where both schools are actually part of the same university system, and masses of Barnard women choose to take classes at Columbia, and there is no other campus social scene besides that at Columbia. Smith, Mount Holyoke, UMass, and Hampshire are all individual, independent institutions that have their own distinct campuses, cultures, and events miles away–inevitably, handfuls of women from those colleges will look for something new and exciting on the Amherst campus every now and then, but it’s not as pervasive as you make it seem. Northhampton is plenty damned fun as one of the most desirable bourgeois-bohemian towns in the country; UMass is “ZooMass,” enough said; the MoHos have plenty of malls to crash and haunt in Hadley; and the Hampshire kids have enough fun by themselves as it is.</p>
<p>"read what they have written yourself: "</p>
<p>ok I will</p>
<p>“There are a lot of Smith and Mt. Holyoke girls on the Amherst campus on weekends.”</p>
<p>“As a straight guy at Amherst, you definitely see a beneficial tilt in the guy/girl ratio from the large numbers of women from Smith and Mount Holyoke who come to Amherst parties”</p>
<p>“we don’t have dozens of scantily clad males coming to our campus every weekend, but we can bond over joking about the females who do so.”</p>
<p>"…significant number of Smith and Mount Holyoke students taking the bus over every weekend. Long story short, if you are seeking a girl, the odds are definitely tipped in your favor. "</p>
<p>“I think you mean one female for every .67 males.”</p>
<p>I don;t think that jives with</p>
<p>“Amherst : 52:48 M:F, 1600 undergrads
Smith 100% F, 2600 undergrads
Mt. Holyoke 100% F, 2100 undergrads”</p>
<p>Which is what I said the statistic referenced.</p>
<p>I’ve no doubt that the private school women wind up at U Mass, they seemingly have little choice. But forgive me for projecting a bit of snobbery upon the egalatarian Amherst women, but I don’t think that’s where a lot of them would prefer to be looking.</p>
<p>But, if you are a prospective Amherst woman, and are perfectly fine with U Mass men, by all means compute your own statistic accordingly.</p>
<p>Ya ive visited both. I had always wanted to go to Yale but i just really enjoyed the close community. I also figure that since amherst is a great feeder school that I would be able to continue my education at a school like yale for my masters. So I ultimately decided that this way would allow me to have the best of both worlds in a way. </p>
<p>Between Brown and Harvard…I would definitely choose Harvard. Good luck with ur decision.</p>
<p>so j1s2nb1rn3s,
you’re going to amherst? Good luck to you. I loved it, but just the small town around it was nothing like my city.</p>
<p>ahh brown and harvard are so different
i know everyone says that harvard undergrads are either unhappy or not taken care of as much as other undergrad programs…but it has so many resources, boston, a ton of neighboring schools.</p>
<p>Brown’s core curriculum, though, is amazing. However, I still feel in the dark about providence. I know its smaller than Boston, but can someone share about its resources/city life/what can one do in the city??</p>
<p>oops. i meant Brown’s lack of a core curriculum</p>