Brown vs. UPenn vs. Wellesley

I never thought I would be in this situation, but here I am.

Up until Ivy day I thought I was going to Wellesley. I didn’t think I had a big shot at any of the Ivies I applied to, but I ended up getting into both UPenn and Brown.

I plan on visiting all three again (Wellesley COC, Brown ADOCH), but I was wondering what others think about this situation. How different would my experience be at Brown or Penn vs. a small top LAC like Wellesley?
Career wise, how would any/all of these schools help to propel me forward?

I am interested in Middle Eastern Studies, Arabic, IR etc. I am also very interested in Politics. My prospective majors at the three colleges are as follows:

UPenn: Modern Middle Eastern Studies or PPE (Politics Philosophy and Economics)
Wellesley: IR w/ Poly Sci or Econ (possibly might try my hand at Comp Sci as well)
Brown: IR (fantastic program with focus on Security & Society or Political Economy & Society), Development Studies

@SpringAwake15 had a very similar decision to make last year – all set to go to Wellesley, then got into Brown. She went to Brown. She had a thread about this in the Parents Forum last year that you might want to look at. You could also PM her.

Wellesley is the right school for the right person – you need to make sure you’re that person. You will do well at all 3 in terms of a future career – they all have strong alum networks and great reputations, etc.

I’m going to send you a PM.

Thanks for tagging me, @fireandrain – I had begun a response, but couldn’t post it last night due to wifi trouble (incidentally, Brown actually has great wifi. I’ve almost never had issues).

I was in a semi-similar place last year, choosing between Brown and Wellesley. I picked Brown. Personally, I wish I had gone with Wellesley (although there’s always the question of if I would be better off there, or if it’s a case of “the grass is always greener…”). I’ll share a bit of my story below, but if you want a fuller explanation that delves more into my personal crap, feel free to PM me.

They’re both excellent schools. I don’t mean to imply otherwise. At both, you’ll have the opportunity to be in small classes starting your first year (though the extent to which that is true at Brown will vary based on your concentration). I would also say that although LACs are known for being conducive to building good relationships with professors, you’ll still be able to do that at Brown. And Career LAB has worked a lot on outreach to first-year students, so I think you’ll find support in terms of looking for internships and things like that, if you want.

The main difference, and where Brown really doesn’t fit me personally, is with the social vibe. Brown as a whole is a very extroverted, outgoing campus. As someone who is extremely introverted, I find it harder to fit in. One of the reasons I chose Brown was because I thought it would challenge me to be more outgoing, but I’ve actually found it to be very isolating. It can be hard to find quiet spaces, especially when there is a predominant party culture here.

I’m also not huge on some of the academic stuff. Grade inflation is very real here – I took a midterm, got one question wrong, and still ended up with a 102.7 due to some bizarre curve the professor calculated. Personally, that bothers me. Like I’m not opposed to curving in general, but come on. I didn’t earn that grade. And the S/NC option, while it’s toted as something that leads to students taking risks all that jazz, honestly, I’ve found that students mostly use it to slack off in a course. I’m sure that sounds cynical, and I’m not saying everyone does it, but it’s really common.

That’s not to say that students aren’t hardworking; (for the most part) they are, and a lot of students do great things. Just that the overwhelming culture at Brown mixes academic priorities very strongly with social ones. Ugh, that’s not exactly what I want to say, but I’m not sure how else to express it. To put it another way, my impression of Wellesley is that students there tend to be much more focused on academics; partying and that sort of life tends to take place off-campus. The degree to which that’s a plus or a minus is completely personal, of course.

…but like I said, feel free to send me a PM if you want to talk in private, or if you have any questions you don’t want to air here.

I would choose Providence over Philadelphia! I don’t know anything about the field of study you’re interested in. Good luck!

Brown is more like Williams than Penn. So depends on what kind of environment you prefer. All three choices are excellent. Penn has the edge for economics and also research opportunities I think. Penn’s PPE program is amazing and kids do extremely well for business recruiting and also grad school.

I think fit is the most important factor here since all three schools ar excellent to begin with.

Wellesley will offer the smallest gen-ed classes. Though obviously xx-only, you would have the ability to take some classes at MIT if you felt the need to collaborate with guys academically (or in any other way). The campus looks gorgeous. Aside from the smaller classes, as an elite LAC Wellesley will almost certainly feature more academic support and easier access to professors than even universities as great as Penn and Brown. However, Penn and Brown offer more majors and more courses and they are better-known to the average hiring manager.

Brown vs. Penn

  • Brown is happy and slightly more quirky
  • Penn is maybe a bit more pre-professional and is very socially active
  • Both schools have plenty of awesome programs and courses.
  • Brown has the open curriculum while Penn does not. Do you want the freedom and responsibility of choosing virtually your entire curriculum, as at Brown? Or would you rather give up some of that freedom and responsibility for the more structured requirements at Penn? Aside from relative program strengths and research opportunities, this is probably the main key in determining academic fit between these two titans of academia.
  • Look at the housing situation at both. Don’t overlook its importance.
  • Philly vs. Providence. Are you a cheesesteak or a lobster? :slight_smile:

I chose Brown! Thanks everyone!

Congrats! I hope you love it!