<p>I'd say Yale. I like its campus and music program.</p>
<p>My sport is a spring sport, so the interference thing with the fall orientation doesn't look like it would be a problem at all. In high school, I've spent more time with my classmates than with my teammates, so I think that I'll be able to work things out. And if I don't want to spend all my time with my teammates, then I won't. </p>
<p>This may be starting to be overkill, but are the athletes percepted as less intelligent or less interesting than the student body at large? At one school I visited, virtually everyone I talked to said that the athletes may have been slightly less intelligent than the rest of the students, and that the only reason that they got in was because their coach went and begged the admissions office. I just want to make sure that there's no stigma like that at Brown.</p>
<p>kokoda2, are you at Yale? Or a junior or something? Sorry, I guess I just want to know what perspective you're coming from.</p>
<p>I believe I mentioned before that my daughter has not noticed a stigma about athletes at Brown. This doesn't strike me as a "Brown" sort of attitude.</p>
<p>No. I'm high school senior.
I went to college trip last summer and Yale's campus was one of the best.(I went to more than 20 colleges) Although Brown was good, it was not 'wow'.
Also, I like music, and I know that Yale has one of the best music program in the nation.
I applied college this year and only ivy that I didn't apply was Brown, because it had nothing, for me, to be attracted.</p>
<p>Yale: great music program. nice campus. name value.
Harvard: undoubted.
Princeton: My BF got in ed. best campus for me.
Columbia: Juilliard is next. NYC. Brian Greene.
Cornell: Best Engineering. Fantastic campus. best meals.
Dartmouth: Campus is cute. Small.
Upenn: My cousin is there. But nothing special.</p>
<p>Brown: Really no attraction for me..at least in my knowledge. I'm sorry to Brown students.</p>
<p>Here's a link to an article from the Brown Daily Herald from just the other day about Brown's music program:</p>
<p>I think campuses are very subjective. I liked Brown's more than Yale's, and some prefer Yale's to Brown's. It depends on the person.</p>
<p>And not to give unsolicitied advice, but please please please, don't chose where you go to college based on your high school boyfriend or girlfriend. You will regret it.</p>
<p>In my opinion one cannot compare Brown to Yale. Admittedly however, I didn't even apply to Yale. I'd go Brown 100%.</p>
<p>I saw you ask the question of politics earlier but no one answered. Brown is seen as the hippy ivy. If you are not comfortable with a liberal majority, it should be a huge factor in your decision.</p>
<p>If you're not comfortable with a liberal majority, then none of the Ivies will work for you.</p>
<p>I never said that a liberal majority would make me uncomfortable, just the opposite in fact. I kinda knew that about Brown, but I've also heard that it's a lot less than it used to be. </p>
<p>Do people like Providence? I mean, I've heard that Providence is better than New Haven, and I've seen both cities, but haven't lived in them. Is it true that Providence is strides ahead of New Haven in safety, culture, interesting things, overall aesthetics, etc.? Do you (students) go into the city a lot? Federal Hill and stuff? I've been told that Yale has a bit of a bubble that the students don't really venture out of, except for community service and stuff like that. That's not something that I'm looking for, and I was wondering if the city and the school are as isolated from each other in Providence.</p>
<p>The BDH is running a series on Providence now, and the Post (a weekly newsmagazine that goes with the BDH) is all about Providence this week. Brown students love Providence (they did a survey last month and more than 80% of students said they loved the city) and take advantage of Brown's location, in my experience.</p>
<p>EVerything about Providence is better than New Haven but coming from NY I find Providence to be pretty pathetic as well. We do have easy access to Boston. Providence is ok, large enough to have anything you'd need in safe access.</p>
<p>modestmelody- Yeah, I can see where you're coming from with that. But for me, I'm from a town about a thousand with a city with 40,000 people about 45 minutes away. Don't get me wrong, I've visited plenty of cities, in plenty of places (just so you don't think I'm too pathetic), but living in one is a different story. Providence seems like a pretty decent stepping-stone city.</p>
<p>Yeah, it's no New York, but it's deeefinitely nicer than New Haven. There's a lot to do, and if you get sick of it, busses leave to Boston every hour on the hour for $13 round trip (student fare).</p>
<p>I liked Providence, but I didn't like how the campus had hills everywhere. I guess Brown students will have massive calves by the time they graduates! Someone from Arizona said one of their state universities has so many hills that many students have beautifully shaped legs ;)</p>
<p>For me Providence > New Haven.</p>
<p>Well, the campus is on top of College Hill, but the campus itself is relatively flat. There's a small incline going from the main green up to Pembroke, but that's about it. I get much more exercise running up the stairs to my fouth floor dorm room than walking around campus!</p>
<p>For a midwesterner like me, the hill is great! But if you're from New England or the Rockies, you won't be too impressed.</p>
<p>As far as a stigma goes, I think it really depends on the sport. I've noticed more of a stigma with football players than with, say, fencers. I know absolutely nothing softball.</p>
<p>Hmmm, my daughter IS a fencer...</p>
<p>Really? I know a disproportionate amount of fencers...</p>
<p>Brown thread, pro-Brown responses.</p>
<p>Makes sense.</p>
<p>why did you bump this</p>