<p>over 28k regular decisions apps to brown this year so total of around 31k. usually ~2700-2800 total are accepted, so all signs point to <10%… possibly <9%.</p>
<p>It seems to be true. I calculated it out.</p>
<p>[Brown</a> Admission: Admission Criteria](<a href=“Undergraduate Admission | Brown University”>Undergraduate Admission | Brown University)</p>
<p>As you can see here, about 2800 applicants were admitted for the past 2 years.</p>
<p>28,000 RD apps were in. Add that to 2,847 ED apps.</p>
<p>2800/30,847 = 9.08%</p>
<p>^ You’re numbers are incorrect.</p>
<p>[The</a> Brown Daily Herald - Early decision applicants hear back](<a href=“http://www.browndailyherald.com/early-decision-applicants-hear-back-1.2125616]The”>http://www.browndailyherald.com/early-decision-applicants-hear-back-1.2125616)</p>
<p>This confirms the 2,847</p>
<p>[Brown</a> University](<a href=“http://www.brown.edu%5DBrown”>http://www.brown.edu)
Scroll on admission. 28000.</p>
<p>2800 is an estimate.</p>
<p>By the way, you used “you’re” incorrectly.</p>
<p>Oh wow I did. My amazing hot chocolate is mesmerizing. I highly suggest investing in a milk frother and a Cocomotion. </p>
<p>You are numbers are still incorrect, though. It says more than 28,000 but hasn’t been updated to show newer numbers.</p>
<p>More than 28,000 would just make acceptance even lower. I rest my case. =P</p>
<p>Yes, but your calculations should be off by a good margin though.</p>
<p>It won’t be exactly 9.08%. It’s probably <9 assuming more than 28,000 RD apps.</p>
<p>I know my parents look only at rankings… it’s annoying. Because Brown is 16-17 they really want me to “go higher”</p>
<p>Hm, while I’m not a huge fan of US News rankings myself, my opposition towards rankings in general is that they’re often not representative of a student’s individual expectations and desires while choosing a university. In my case, I look at things as general and common as academics, class sizes and prevalence of TAs but at the same time I also look at things as specific as the presence of Model UN teams or the nature of first-year mathematics or the frequency of double-majoring. No ranking could suitably accommodate every person’s specific needs and wants. </p>
<p>Having said that, I continue to respect the US News rankings as an international student whose perceptions of American schools could not have extended past Harvard or Yale or Princeton or Stanford if not for some sort of ranking that could tell me what other schools were in the top-tier. </p>
<p>I will not deny that fit is incredibly important when choosing a college, but to argue from your parents’ perspectives for a moment, assuming you’re paying the same price to send your kid to college at Brown or Harvard, you would reason that Harvard would provide a more motivating, stimulating, comprehensive and let’s not deny it, prestigious, collegiate education. If you do get into schools such as HYPMS, it makes practical sense for you to go to school there. </p>
<p>However, when the comparison comes to something like Brown vs. Columbia, which are at opposite ends of the curricular structure spectrum (Open Curriculum vs. Core), then what you want from your collegiate experience becomes far more important than a US News ranking, which doesn’t quite account for this pivotal difference. Even though Columbia might be ranked higher, it makes no sense to put yourself through two years of structured classes in subjects you may have no interest in. (I say this from the perspective of a Columbia ED-er).</p>
<p>^Didn’t Emma Watson choose Brown over Yale??</p>
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<p>I’m not sure the 28,000 number is just regular decision applications. It originally said 25,000. As I noted in [another</a> thread](<a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/brown-university/843272-extra-dog-bites-man-brown-2014-apps-28-000-plus.html]another”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/brown-university/843272-extra-dog-bites-man-brown-2014-apps-28-000-plus.html), the difference between the two numbers is approximately the number of early decision applications. It seems plausible to me that Brown originally didn’t include the early decision applications, but then thought better of it and did.</p>
<p>The language of the graphic is a little ambiguous. It is talking about the resources that will be needed to evaluate the applications, but at the same time it says “28,000 applications submitted to Brown this year.”</p>
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<p>There is 0 reason to believe the first three things you wrote.</p>
<p>^ i agree with modestmelody… prestigious, yes. but the other three? not so much. after talking with people who matriculated at either school, it seems that your 3 adjectives do not necessarily hold true. in fact, it seems that brown exhibits more of the qualities listed</p>
<p>I think it just verifies that it’s good he got into Columbia ED. That way there’s no chance he could’ve possibly hve taken spots at Brown and taking it away from someone who wants it.</p>
<p>Does anybody know if there’s a possibility of Brown increasing class size with the huge increase in applicants?</p>
<p>Light up the Sky- The problem is just logistical. There’s a set number of rooms that they really just can’t go past unless they want people in the hallways.</p>
<p>So Seeme25, you are saying that if someone makes up numbers you Dad takes that as a holy grail? There are many well documented analysis of why the US New numbers make little sense. For instance Alumni giving is a factor in the ‘rank’ of the college, is that important for him? Is it implied that the better the school, the better the giving? Is that hard data? Other rankings do not include such data.</p>
<p>The main aim of the rankings is to sell magazines, not to provide a true assessment of colleges. But US News has done a very good job of convincing people that these rankings are based on fact, when is isn’t. It is based on an amalgamation of facts and opinion that someone decided to make up a formula with and weight in certain ways. I’m not an expert on it, but I have read that 25% of the rankings come from opinion surveys culled from peer colleges, which is clearly open to abuse. US News has also admitted that when data is not available, they will use a proxy–in other words they will make data up.</p>
<p>I guess the thing that irks me most about US News is the implication that you can even say that you can number schools in order. The concept is ludicrous. I can see tiers, but within tiers, order means very little. It implies an accuracy that is not available. Surely your dad must understand that concept.</p>
<p>I’m sorry you have to deal with that. And I’m sorry to hear that he would actually get angry to have a discussion about other schools you are interested in as opposed to schools he is interested in. That’s ugly. And precludes meaningful discussion about what kind of environment you would thrive in. Things like campus culture (cooperative vs competitive) and core requirements, and well as particular department strengths if you know your major are important in your success. I think your dad is just after bragging rights.</p>
<p>According to the bulletin just sent to alumni volunteers: </p>
<p>“Brown is experiencing another record year with over 28,000 Regular Decision applicants.” – so says Jim Miller, Dean of Admissions</p>
<p>And these Early Decision Statistics
Applications: 2,846
Admitted Students: 564
Acceptance rate: 20%
PLME applications: 340
PLME admits: 26</p>
<p>I seriously doubt they would increase class size, res life has enough trouble fitting everyone into dorms as it is. I have heard talk about options of where to build new dorms but none of these have really made it past the idea stage as far as I know.</p>