Brown's US News Ranking? Help!

<p>because it's not a hot research/grad school. </p>

<p>for that ranking <a href="http://ed.sjtu.edu.cn/rank/2004/%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://ed.sjtu.edu.cn/rank/2004/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>"We rank universities by several indicators of academic or research performance, including alumni and staff winning Nobel Prizes and Fields Medals, highly cited researchers, articles published in Nature and Science, articles in Science Citation Index-expanded and Social Science Citation Index, and academic performance with respect to the size of an institution. "</p>

<p>Couldn't this "staff" be researching most of the time instead of teaching?</p>

<p>^^^^^ ditto</p>

<p>i believe dcircle is a student not an "official"</p>

<p>Dcircle is a self-proclaimed member of the Committee on University Resources.</p>

<p>really?? When he first came onto the board, he said that he was a first-year med student in the PLME program...</p>

<p><a href="http://www.brown.edu/Administration/Provost/URC/members.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.brown.edu/Administration/Provost/URC/members.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>oh ok, that makes sense.</p>

<p>Bylerly enjoys calling me an official as part of his propaganda. For the record, I'm a first year med student--making this my fifth year at Brown. I was a neuroscience concentrator. Both as a student representative and an alum, I serve the university in a bunch of capacities, including the University Resources Committee, Class Council, and Medical Student Senate. I also have participated in Ivy Council and PLME admissions committee.</p>

<p>As a result, I know a thing or two. I like posting on these forums to help people out.</p>

<p>It's well-appreciated, dcircle.</p>

<p>Byerly: Chill.</p>

<p>Brown, of course, does care about SATs. Anecdotally, people tend to say that Brown is more capricious (and less numbers-based) than other ivies. There may be no truth to that, but it would seem to logically follow that a big academic experimenter would also experiment more with its admissions. </p>

<p>If you look at Brown and Penn, you see that Brown's SAT range is from 1290-1500, and Penn's is from 1330-1510. The upper range is only 10 points higher at Penn, but the lower range is 40 points higher at Penn. One could conclude that Brown is somewhat more likely to "take risks" with applicants with lower SATs.</p>

<p>Byerly: I have no idea if your numbers are correct, or who is right in this argument, but you will definitely convince more people if you stop with the personal attacks. I'm inclined to not believe you just because you sound like an ass.</p>

<p>Brown is ranked lower because its an undergraduate focused school, so of course the Dean of Michigan State will rate it lower than Univerisity of Michigan in Peer Assessment. All the LAC-ish undergrad schools ranked among universities face this issue (with the exception of Princeton).</p>