CAL POLY SLO = good school?

<p>I would have to disagree with your first statement of both Cal Poly's being better. CPSLO is the best CSU, and SDSU is the second best. The difficulty of admittance is highest at these two schools by far.</p>

<p>Your right about UC's also being research institutions, but for selectivity, Cal Poly still beats those three UC's and is comparable to the others for undergrad. Yeah, they don't have a very strong liberal arts program, but it is called California Polytechnic University, so it is considered a technical school.</p>

<p>Also, just because you go to UCR or UCSC for undergrad, doesn't mean you'll go to there as a grad. I don't know about anyone else, but I'm looking to apply to schools based on their undergrad reputation. I'll think about grad in four years.</p>

<p>Of course UC grad programs are better than CP's, since it is not a research oriented U. It is undergrad-riented, and I thought we were focusing on undergrad. If we look at the OVERALL university, the UC's would probably be "better"(This is especially true in my field, biology).</p>

<p>I'm a student at SDSU, Cal Poly was my number one choice. I chose San Diego State over many UC's, the reason I chose SDSU over many of the UC's, was the fact the UC's do not catter to business students, aside from HAAS at UC Berkeley which is an extremely difficult program to get into. UC's have a more theoretical approach, whereas Cal States are more "technical" in their education. Although, i've noticed SDSU doesn't quite have the "technical" approach thus far. My GE classes seem to be more theoretical, perhaps, my upper level classes will be different. Someone said Cal States do not offer "graduate" programs which is a completely false. They offer many graduate programs, although they seem to lack in "DOCTORIAL" programs, which is why CAL POLY is not ranked in that top 100 the OP was speaking of, because they don't offer a doctorial education, which is the main basis for those rankings.</p>

<p>"I'm a student at SDSU, Cal Poly was my number one choice. I chose San Diego State over many UC's, the reason I chose SDSU over many of the UC's, was the fact the UC's do not catter to business students, aside from HAAS at UC Berkeley which is an extremely difficult program to get into. UC's have a more theoretical approach, whereas Cal States are more "technical" in their education. Although, i've noticed SDSU doesn't quite have the "technical" approach thus far. My GE classes seem to be more theoretical, perhaps, my upper level classes will be different. Someone said Cal States do not offer "graduate" programs which is a completely false. They offer many graduate programs, although they seem to lack in "DOCTORIAL" programs, which is why CAL POLY is not ranked in that top 100 the OP was speaking of, because they don't offer a doctorial education, which is the main basis for those rankings."</p>

<p>I would like to point out that while most of the UCs don't offer a buisness degree, most of them do offer an accounting degree, which is one of the biggest buisness concentrations.</p>

<p>My final statement. Cal Poly is a better undergrad school than, UCR, UCM, UCSC. It is comparable to UCI, UCSB, and UCD.</p>

<p>Heefar7,</p>

<p>How do you know it is better? Have you attended ALL of the schools you mentioned? Can you be a bit biased? What you should have said was: “In my OPINION CPSLO is better for undergrad than school XYZ.”</p>

<p>how can you know the Cal Poly is a better undergraduate school than UCM when it hasn't even open up yet.</p>

<p>I think it's obviously heefar's opinion, since he's the one who said it. It certainly cannot be construed as some sort of factual statement. Everything said on this thread is some sort of opinion, occassionaly with evidence supporting the claims. Heefar, I saw you are applying to Cal Poly. If you have any questions about the school or the application process, don't hesitate to ask.</p>

<p>Obviously it's my opinion. It's based off the information that I have gotten from my research of the schools, visiting campuses and hearing what other people who have gone to the schools say. When I say, "My final statement..." it means that whatever succeeds it is my opinion.</p>

<p>Giants, I do plan on applying. It is actually one of my first choice schools. First off, are you a Giants fan? I'm a die hard Giants fan. Anyway, I think I'm going to apply under business admin. One question that I'm not sure of is do I need to send a transcript and SAT score report after I submit my app online? Just tell me about your experience there...it's nice to hear other OPINIONS..lol</p>

<p>This thread made me laugh.</p>

<p>I just wanted to say that I graduated from Cal Poly, SLO in 2002 in Electrical Engineering and I think it is a phenomenal school for an undergraduate degree. I am now a PhD candidate at UT Austin, and I really value the hands-on education that I received at Cal Poly. I believe that the hands-on philosophy and the focus on teaching was a better preparation for graduate school than the large lecture halls and inaccessible professors that I have heard about from large public school graduates. My friends in industry are also very happy with their education. </p>

<p>I really encourage you to visit Cal Poly and go on a campus tour. The tour guides are very knowledgeable and answer many of your questions. </p>

<p>Good luck in your college search!</p>

<p>While still in high school I attend UCSD, and returned to the school two decades later for graduate level courses. After graduating high school I entered UCSC, then transferred up to CAL. A decade later I attended Cal Poly, aka "Cow Poly". All of these schools were... and still are... EXCELLENT! In many ways I believe Poly is the best of the four for undergrad if, and only if, the school offers a major in an area you truly are interested in. I also think much depends upon your style of learning: Poly tends to be pragmatic and focused upon the details of doing. The UC schools, at least in the majors I studied, tended to teach toward deep thinking and a baseline for graduate level work. In general, the students at Cal Poly were more focused upon exiting college and getting a good job (Poly is especially great for after college job connections). In contrast, many of my peers at CAL were focused upon grad school. </p>

<p>The best way I know to contrast Cal Poly's "learn by doing" approach with the more conceptual "think about it" approach of the three UC's is to write about breakfast cereal (I know this might sound strange, but stay with me :-) </p>

<p>At Cal Poly SLO, the students might be asked to identify the need for a new breakfast cereal and then develop the product to final. So, we have the Ag students growing the wheat and harvesting it. The Food Sci students will research and perhaps formulate the recipe. The Engineering students will design and build the tools needed to manufacture the cereal (and probably the harvesting equipment and package equipment too!), the Graphic Arts students will design the packages and ads to sell the cereal, the Biz students will design and implement the marketing program (as well as survey to decide what kind of cereal the consumer wants and where to price the product), Architecture students will design the buildings the cereal is sold in, etc. Oh, I forgot to mention that the soil science students will be working on the prime soil mix to maximize the wheat production, or turn the wheat byproduct into a premium top mulch. And the dairy students will be intent on raising the finest cows so we can put milk on the cereal! </p>

<p>In contrast, at all three UCs, the students might be asked to ponder the implications of breakfast cereal as it relates to life in the US as compared to the rest of the World. We might research the impact of packaged products on the social fabric of the family, or look at the health impact of cereals on man and/or the environment. Or, we might write a thesis on the optimum cereal for distribution to 3rd World nations in times of famine. We'd probably need to do a semester of study abroad to gather data on this. At UCSC we might be asked to imagine a world where breakfast cereal was not an option... and then do an in-depth presentation on how and why this would be (backed up with footnotes and research data). </p>

<p>I think you can understand how Cal Poly SLO is extremely focused upon practical education. This is not to say that Poly was any easier (or more difficult), than the UC's. Rather, it is a different approach and perhaps guiding philosophy to undergraduate college education.</p>

<p>I think it valuable for interested students to consider that the "feel" of all of these schools is very different. By "feel", I mean the sense one has when walking around campus. This comes from who the students are, of course. But there is also the vastly different natural surroundings, as well as the towns where the schools are located. SLO still has a college town feel with a heavy ag influence (I suggest you stroll through downtown SLO during a Thursday night Farmer's market to see if this is what you want). UCSD is in a wonderful location above the beaches of La Jolla, yet close to all the positives... and negatives... of So Cal. Santa Cruz has a feel unique to that area --- sort of a surf meets the Redwoods and Banana Slugs sort of thing. Berkeley is, well... everything you can imagine. And perhaps more. It is the most political of all the schools. And all that the Bay Area has to offer is easy access on public transportation. It is a very forward thinking, forward moving part of the country. Truly a fabulous learning environment that encourages students to be aware and engaged in a macro sense.</p>

<p>Best advice I can think of is to visit these schools in person!</p>

<p>I'd have to say that was the best post in this forum. I like your analogy, and agree with you. Basically, that is what the lady said at the admissions info session. Just like on their website, at Cal Poly, you learn by doing.</p>

<p>I would also have to agree with you about visiting campuses. I visited about 15 this summer (all in CA) and that really helped me narrow my choices down to half. When walking on the campus you get a feel like, "This is awesome, I'd fit perfect here," or ,"I hate this, get me the hell out of here." I think more important than prestige or US News Rankings is if you would want to live your next 4 years of your life there.</p>

<p>guys rank the top 5 cal states?</p>

<p>Cal Poly SLO is number 1, what are the other top 5?</p>

<p>does long beach and pomona make the top 5?</p>

<p>J9swimmer, great post.</p>

<p>heefar: What I'd like to know is how you're comparing to UC Merced when the school's undergraduate program doesn't even yet exist?</p>

<p>I start CP this January; I am one of the few winter transfers who got into the journalism department. I really liked the fact that CP is one of the only schools in the country to have their own print station on the campus for the students to run. I just visited the school a couple days ago and these positive feelings were reinforced even more by the kindness and helpfulness of the faculty and staff..... At one point my dad and I were completely lost, only to be approached by a student who helped us to our destination. Overall I am very excited about attending Cal Poly SLO this January, and I hope to see some of you there, perhaps...</p>

<p>leggomyeggo, a school doesn't just start off as a prestigious school with high academic standards. It's common knowledge that it takes a while for them to get a reputation.</p>

<p>"Cal Poly is a <em>better</em> undergrad school than, UCR, UCM, UCSC."</p>

<p>Regardless of reputation and prestige, UCM has the potential to blow Cal Poly, UCR, and UCSC out of the water. Your assumptions can't be backed by any recent comparisons as the newest UC campuses (Irivine and Santa Cruz) are forty years old and one of the fairly newer campuses, UCSD (established in 1959) is one of the most prestigious universities in the state of California, ranked by US News as the 7th best public university in the nation and with science programs that match those of the Ivies. UC Merced's undergrad program can't be compared until it is actually up and running.</p>

<p>Ugh. Am I the only one who thinks that comparing random schools based on ones own opinion is a lost cause. Especially when one has not even attended the school, and resorts to regurgitating common stereotypes and assumptions about these schools. I would much rather just here from someone who is attending the school, even if it is a little bias.</p>

<p>came across your question that apparently never was answered. most accounts rank the following as the top five CSUs:</p>

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<li> cal poly san luis opisbo hands down champion.</li>
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<p>2 and 3. typically between san diego state and cal poly pomona, each having certain strengths and weaknesses</p>

<p>4 and 5. usually among chico state, long beach state, and sometimes including san jose state and/or sonoma state.</p>