<p>Looking at the flowcharts for all engineering programs at LSU, it seems as though you’ll be taking a lot of math either way. I wouldn’t give up on EE until I’ve given my all in Calc and Phys and still struggled though. </p>
<p>The Engineering Technology degrees are often less math intensive. You won’t learn as much theory as you would in an actual engineering program, which may or may not be bad thing for you.</p>
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Not much of a gentle"man" 
Us females may be rare, but we do exist in EE.</p>
<p>Sorry about that though - I had the thread open for a while before I posted so I never saw your question. The ^ key was intended to point at sacchi’s post.</p>
<p>Personally, I think the easiest way to know which engineering you should do (if you don’t do CS) would be through physics. For example, I was not good at newtonian physics (typically Physics I), but quite good at e&m (Physics II) - hence why I’m a good EE, but would be an awful MechE.</p>
<p>I really wouldn’t stress so much about which engineering though until you get through Calc & Physics as Ghostayame said. Go in via the CS program so you can take the prereqs, and go from there. You may even just find that CS is right for you.</p>
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<p>I don’t understand your approach to career planning at all. You are jumping from Psychology to CS to EE to ME to CE without any consideration of what you really want to do or knowledge of what any of these degrees will mean in terms of actual jobs. You need to learn what these careers are all about beyond the starting salaries! You have done no analysis beyond trying to figure out the 150% rule.
Step 1 - go to the career guidance center [Career</a> Development Center](<a href=“http://www.fscj.edu/mydegree/career-development/index.php]Career”>http://www.fscj.edu/mydegree/career-development/index.php) and tell them that you are really confused and would like some help exploring various career options. Then do the work of really figuring out what you want to do. This will require a little work on your part to follow through with the research, do the reading, personality tests etc. etc. You can’t afford to spend time working on a second major and then decide it isn’t what you like.
Step 2- **then **figure out how to make it happen. Since you wasted (I hate to use that word so I don’t believe any acquired knowledge is ever a waste!) some of your FA money taking courses that don’t fulfill prereqs for CS or Engineering, and since you started out behind on math - it won’t be easy and you probably not be able to get it all done within your 150% rule. You may have to get creative with finishing your BS on a part-time basis while you work.
Also, I think CS is unlikely to work for you since it requires a lot of advanced math and is very theoretical. Read through the degree requirements [UNF</a> Catalog](<a href=“UNF: Programs of Study 2023-2024”>UNF: Programs of Study 2023-2024) and then look up the course descriptions for some of the courses such as “Computability And Automata” or “Applied Graph Theory”.</p>
<p>You sound like you are more of a hands-on type of person. So I think you would be better off with a Bachelors in Information Technology. It is much less math oriented and less theoretical than CS. Did you look at this program at all? [School</a> of Information Technology | Florida State College](<a href=“http://www.fscj.edu/mydegree/academics/schools/information-technology/index.php]School”>http://www.fscj.edu/mydegree/academics/schools/information-technology/index.php)</p>
<p>@sacchi</p>
<p>Yeah, they offer an IT degree and I thought about doing that. It’s just that my goal is create technology for companies, so I’m not sure if I want to go the IT route. </p>
<p>@Ghostayame</p>
<p>Yeah, I thought about an engineering tech program. Correct me if I am wrong, but with an engineering tech degree I will be actually physically building the technology that the engineers draw up on CAD? Am I correct in assuming this? I would love to do this! Love it! My school even offers a degree in engineering technology, but it’s just that I talked to my financial aid counselor about it, and they said that financial aid wouldn’t be willing to pay for the degree because it is an A.S. degree and financial aid would treat it like it’s getting another A.A. degree. However most places I called told me that all they really needed was experience with the CAD systems to do the job, and they would train me in the rest. </p>
<p>Also, it seems like if I became a tech, I would just be doing blue collar work and building stuff like refrigerators and fixing AC units and stuff? I called around my town and asked all the major engineering companies if they were hiring techs and it seems like all the engineering companies in my city just build houses. That sounds boring to me. Is it hard to find a job building something else?</p>
<p>@BeanTownGirl</p>
<p>There is a method to my madness. I am exploring every career that I would possibly be interested in and narrowing it down. Also, I understand the 150% rule pretty well now. You are right though, I am not that great with the theoretical planning of technology come to think of it. I am a lot better with tinkering with technology to get it to work. I am the guy that is good at taking something apart piece by piece and understanding how it works.</p>
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That’s not quite what they were talking about. There are 4 year BS degrees in Eng. Tech. But it looks like UNF does not offer that, unfortunately.</p>
<p>circuits in ee require very little math. I am very bad at math but survived fine.</p>
<p>@Johnson181</p>
<p>Ok well, I see what you were talking about now. Also, I didn’t see that they had a program for that either but I guess that I would have to ask the UNF advisors. They do have one in construction engineering, but I doubt that’s what I’m looking for…</p>
<p>[Bachelor</a> degree in Construction Engineering Technology + Technician at University of North Florida](<a href=“http://www.universities.com/edu/Bachelor_degree_in_Construction_Engineering_Technology_Technician_at_University_of_North_Florida.html]Bachelor”>http://www.universities.com/edu/Bachelor_degree_in_Construction_Engineering_Technology_Technician_at_University_of_North_Florida.html)</p>
<p>Hey but can someone explain this to me…</p>
<p>UNF has a couple different engineering programs that confuse me. For instance they have a degree that is labeled “physics-electrical engineering”, “physics-mechanical engineering”, and “physics-computing emphasis”? I would assume that these are all engineering degrees? Also, I would assume that the computing emphasis one is essentially “computer engineering”. Am I wrong? </p>
<p>If so why do they also have an additional degree under the construction and engineering program called just “Electrical engineering-BSEE” and “Mechanical engineering-BS”. What are the differences in these programs. Here is the page that I am referencing…</p>
<p>[UNF</a> Catalog](<a href=“http://www.unf.edu/catalog/programs/ug/]UNF”>UNF: Programs of Study 2022-2023)</p>
<p>^ If you follow the links to the degree requirements, you’ll see the differences. </p>
<p>The degrees through the College of Computing, Engineering, and Construction appear to be ABET-accredited (per the ABET site) except for Building Construction (likely not accreditable). The ones through the College of Arts and Sciences are not.</p>
<p>I wouldn’t bank on your circuits class not using a lot of math, it will depend on where you take it. My circuits class heavily involved differential equations, solving systems of equations with complex numbers, and heavy algebraic manipulation. Be comfortable moving back and forth between complex forms (polar, rectangular, exponential). Also be pro with partial fraction expansions and completing the square for laplace transforms. As well, even when the techniques and equations are straight forward, you have to understand enough about what’s going on to correctly set up the problem.</p>
<p>Here’s my 2 cents on the CS degree. I worked for over 17 years as a computer programmer/ system analyst before I quit to stay home with my kids. You can make good money in IT. You are almost always learning something new. It does not necessarily require the math skills that engineering does. The down side is there may be long hours, you can get laid off and you better be learning new skills otherwise you will become obsolete. If you like learning new things and don’t want to get stuck doing the samething day after day then I say go for the CS degree. </p>
<p>Otherwise check out some other colleges in Florida. Perhaps a different school would allow you to start on the EE track.</p>
<p>@OP: Yeah, there are 4 year tech degrees. You can get your AS in Eng. tech. then you can transfer to a university and most of your credits will transfer towards an Eng. Tech degree, so you can finish our degree in 4 years. It’s unfortunate that your school doesn’t offer a BSET. </p>
<p>If you take an engineering technology course, you’ll still have to deal with quite a bit of math. So far, I’ve only had to do a lot of algebraic manipulation, but this semster I’ve been told that I’ll have to use Trig. concepts. So, you’ll have to get used to math either way.</p>
<p>All the techs I know either work with engineering firms building houses, or, work in the oil & gas industry. It’s blue collar work, but & gas is good money.</p>
<p>@allyphoe</p>
<p>So that means if I do go to school for comp sci and I decide to go back and get a second bachelor’s I will definitely do the electrical or mechanical engineering. It seems as though the other degrees are just stepping stones to a master’s and that’s not what I’m looking for. </p>
<p>@MichiganGeorgia</p>
<p>Yeah, I’m not looking forward to working long hours. Also, I will probably want to keep going in school, and maybe get a second bachelors or a masters and if I work that many hours I won’t be able to. I think that doing IT long term is out. Also, I would kill myself if I had to work a job that required me to do the same thing everyday of my life for the rest of my life. THAT WOULD SUCK! I think I’ll stick with computer science. </p>
<p>@Ghostayame</p>
<p>Yeah, I think I will skip the engineering tech job then. I want to create new technology, and that degree doesn’t sound like it would enable me to do what I want. I think I’m just gonna get a computer science degree. Also, I know I have asked this before but is there anyway that I could get a job both drafting and physically building new technology or is that really hard if not impossible to get?</p>
<p>One more question…</p>
<p>If I wanted to do a second bachelor’s later on in engineering which would be a better minor: physics or math?</p>
<p>I don’t think you would need a minor. My DS is looking BME and the college he is looking at doesn’t require a minor. I might be wrong though , it might depend on the college.</p>
<p>For those of you who suggested getting your BS in CS and then do a MSEE, let me tell you straight that it is rather difficult. Computer programming and Electronic/Electrical engineering are two very different disciplines. The only overlap may be Computer engineering (you will end up writing firmware or do CPU design until your brain get fried like me). But I dare to say that I understanding how a computer work (from the chip level to the OS) better than 90% of the CS or EE engineers.</p>
<p>@OP: OK, I think I finally get what you’re trying to do. You CAN get a job designing and building, but the latter is a task usually performed by techs., or test engineers. If you want to build the tech Eng. technology is the way to go, if you want to design you want to become an engineer.</p>
<p>Hope your math skills improve though. at the university I intend to transfer to, Comp Sci. majors still have to do up to Diff Eq. So like I said, take all math based classed very seriously.</p>
<p>@yaujar</p>
<p>Yeah, I know that you aren’t required to do a minor. I was only thinking of doing a minor in math to get satisfy more of the prerequisites so that I could get a second bachelor’s or masters in ME or EE. </p>
<p>@Ghostayame</p>
<p>So it is possible to design and build the technology? How do I do this? Also, again, would it be worth it to take on a math minor in order to satisfy more the the prerequisites for ME or EE?</p>
<p>Ok so folks I really need to to get some new advice now. I went to my adviser today and apparently they once again put a tighter clamp on financial aid. It used to state that financial aid would pay up to 150% of a degree. Now it’s gone down to 115% as of fall 2012! I can’t even pay for the full computer science degree. I can pay for all but about 5 classes. Should I still major in it? I mean I’m not sure if I can pay for those last few classes out of pocket? Although the adviser said that the school often gives CS and IT students jobs while they are in school so they can stay afloat financially. Though I now can’t do the minor in math. What should I do? </p>
<p><a href=“https://www.unf.edu/onestop/registrar/Excess_Credit_Hour_Surcharge.aspx[/url]”>https://www.unf.edu/onestop/registrar/Excess_Credit_Hour_Surcharge.aspx</a></p>
<p>@OP: idk what you mean by build new technology. If you mean for a tech. Company, then you can do that as a technician, but idk about how easy it would be for a tech to get one of those jobs. I only know oil & gas techs, or ones that work for engineering firms. But the curriculum should prepare you for that sort of work. </p>
<p>I wouldn’t worry about the minor anyhow. You seem to have financial restrictions.</p>