<p>What title implies. Is it possible to be recruited to any Ivy or Ivy-Caliber School (I'm looking at Stanford, right now). I'm only an incoming college freshman however, but I'd like to know what I may be getting myself into if I decide to transfer and what it takes exactly. I understand Ivy transfer admissions are incredibly slim given their high retention rates.</p>
<p>please and thank you</p>
<p>???
You are accepted to Stanford? Are you an incoming freshman 2016? </p>
<p>WHY are you eve considering transferring …if you haven’t attended as of yet?</p>
<p>What sport do you want to be recruited for? Stanford has great academics and great athletics. If you are going to matriculate there— give it a chance.</p>
<p>No, No, No. I applied to Stanford (did not get in. Unfortunately, my grades just weren’t competitive enough which I knew from the start.) I’ll be attending a Top 20 LAC this fall, and although I am content with my second choice Stanford was a perfect fit for me and I am dismayed that I wasn’t granted admission. I play both Basketball (in the Winter) and Row (in the Fall and Spring). I love Basketball, however I believe I’m more competitive as a rower–I’m not sure which one I’d be potentially recruited for.</p>
<p>Suggest you consider what the recruitable rowing times are for Stanford
…and assuming you are going to row at your LAC…
work hard both academically and athletically if you don’t have times that are those recruitable standards. Understand that the times they recruit in high school get faster with collegiate training–so you need to be top of your game.</p>
<p>Stanford recuits top athletes with top grades, because they can…so there is no “charity” on either side of that equation.</p>
<p>OTOH you may find that a year from now you are very happy where you are going.</p>
<p>Good luck.</p>
<p>What would be considered fast for 2K recruit-able times. I’m not sure if I should wait one or two years before attempting to transfer, but I’d like to be a Sophomore Transfer (I’m afraid my High School academic record is fairly weak, though. . .) My fastest 2k was in Late April of this year (7:28.7) I am an OW (was 175 then, I’m now 160-ish). I’ve been rowing for a little less than two years (about a year and a half) and played basketball for all 4 years of HS.</p>
<p>These guidelines may help … [College</a> Rowing Scholarships. Rowing Recruiting.](<a href=“College Rowing Scholarships | Best College Rowing Teams”>College Rowing Scholarships | Best College Rowing Teams) … with your question about if you a potential crew recruit.</p>
<p>Transfers are certainly allowed in hoops and there are a lot of them. If you were not being pursued by D1 schools in high school than I’d guess it is very unlikely Stanford would recruit you as transfer. Walking on may be a possibility … but to play at Stanford you’ll have to be somewhere near the top 1% of high school players for your graduating class … are you that good (and have the need size and athleticism)?</p>
<p>Yeah, like I said I was a lot better at rowing than basketball, even though I had more experience with the latter. Would I be competitive enough for Stanford Rowing?</p>
<p>What’s your ERG time? Given that the link above will give you an idea. If you really want to know contact Stanford; if they are interested they certainly will let you know … <a href=“https://secure.assistantcoach.net/colleges/athlete_webform.asp?oid=130&sid=3771[/url]”>https://secure.assistantcoach.net/colleges/athlete_webform.asp?oid=130&sid=3771</a></p>
<p>My fastest 2k was in Late April of this year (7:28.7) I am an OW (was 175 then, I’m now 160-ish). I can’t remember any other erg times off the top of my head (4k, 6k, 10k), I’d have to look it up. I’m just trying to decide the time frame to contact the coach. Maybe I didn’t make it clear, but I’m a girl.</p>
<p>PatheticHopeful,</p>
<p>Many people don’t get into Stanford for many reasons. Take a number. I find it very strange that you are considering a “what if…” scenario enrolled in a top 20 LAC when you haven’t even spent a day at the top 20 LAC as a student. Really? Give your new school a chance to win you over with academics, athletics, and social. Focus on your rowing and basketball this year, and see how you do. If it isn’t working out after your freshmen year at the top 20 LAC then consider a transfer to somewhere.</p>
<p>OP</p>
<p>You might want to also check one of the major sources for rowing info…like US Rowings webwiste. I think the times are much lower…like sub 6:30…depending on weight of the rower. Places like Stanford (and the Ivies) get rowers like that.</p>
<p>Do some homework–and you will find what you need. </p>
<p>In the meantime, I think for your own happiness and peace, you need to focus on the horizon ahead, your LAC and planning for freshman year. Plan on being happy there. Bloom where you have been planted.</p>
<p>Also unless you are going to walk on the basketball team or rowing team and really work…you don’t have the ability to train and improve on a collegiate level.</p>
<p>You need to give the LAC a real chance. You chose it, apploed and got accepted. Now go “storm the castle” and enjoy :)</p>
<p>@fenwaysouth Thanks. Of course I’m sure I’ll be content at my LAC this fall, I’ve just been a bit concerned about the amount of resources, research, and job outlook for my potential career path at the LAC and I felt that Stanford would be a better fit for me. However I’m probably just overreacting–as usual Haha! Perhaps I’ll try to get in on my own volition or wait until graduate school for Stanford.</p>
<p>@fogfog Thank you, as well. Are you referring to Women’s Rowing 2k erg times because I wasn’t aware some girls were that fast, but I suppose a competitive program and school like Stanford would have girls that fast. I’ll be rowing for my LAC this year (unfortunatly I won’t be able to play basketball–one or the other) as a recruit.</p>
<p>OP
I was taking a guess on times…</p>
<p>[National</a> Team Testing Protocol](<a href=“http://www.usrowing.org/NationalTeams/NationalTeamTesting/NTTProtocol.aspx]National”>http://www.usrowing.org/NationalTeams/NationalTeamTesting/NTTProtocol.aspx)</p>
<p>Looks like 6:45 if I am reading that correctly. IDK what u-23 times are, is that Sr women since it is not under 18?</p>
<p>Are you rowing this summer?</p>
<p>PHF,<br>
The erg field for U-18 this year in particular has gotten incredibly fast. I can give you some real erg times for current stanford recruits OW girls: 2016 Stanford accepted/scholarship rower 7:05 erg, jr national team 2011, 165-ish pounds. 2017 Stanford hopeful (she should get in) 7:07 jr national team 2011 and likely 2012 160-ish pounds. In your case, a 7:28 might have been enough for academic assistance if your grades were outstanding, but not nearly fast enough for a scholarship. The fastest girl in the country is a Junior - and she is erging at 6:55 as of February. She too is a likely for the 2012 jrnational team. She will go whereever she wants - for free.</p>
<p>I agree with those who have said enjoy where you will be - especially if the coach has expressed interest in you. You want to row where you are wanted!</p>
<p>Thanks, again. No, I won’t be rowing this summer (just weightlifting and exercising unfortunately). I wasn’t really looking for a “scholarship” exactly (in the case that I were accepted to Stanford the need-based aid that I would be awarded would probably be generous to cover most tuition/R&B–as it has with most of the college that I’ve applied to. I was just wondering if I might be able to gain a slight admissions boost in the transfer pool if I decided I wanted to row for Stanford, but I understand as it stands, my times are a bit slow.</p>
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<p>No- you are not nearly fast enough given the times posted above…for it to help in the recruiting venue.</p>
<p>Good luck and enjoy your LAC and rowing there. Show up in shape and ready to work. Consider cross training this summer and Erging…ask the coach what the summer suggested training is and do it.</p>
<p>To the original poster - I replied to your similar inquiry on another thread but don’t know if you saw it.</p>
<p>Just a couple of things - first, if you are going to be rowing on a Div 3 team with your current college, you cannot - repeat, you cannot - contact Stanford or any other college without getting permission of your current college. This is usually easy to do - just contact the athletics department at your freshman school and ask to speak to the compliance officer. Tell them you are considering transfer and provide them with a list of schools that you wish to have permission to contact. They will fax clearance forms to all those schools, and that allows both you and the coaches to contact one another. Failure to do this will jeopardize your eligibility, and no program will contact you without this in any case, as they can get in hot water with the NCAA. This rule is in place to prevent high powered programs from recruiting, ‘stealing’, talented athletes from smaller schools. It is a formality for something like what you are doing, but you still have to do it.</p>
<p>The other thing to be aware of - and I’m sure you are - is that schools like Stanford have so few transfer spots open that they generally fill them with very specific types of students that meet Their needs, not yours. So, every year Stanford will admit a few veterans as transfers, as they feel they have a responsibility and duty to our country to do that. They will admit a few ‘nontraditional’ students - older students who perhaps have had jobs and perhaps have families - to add diversity to their student body. They admit about half the transfers from community colleges, looking for students who perhaps did poorly in high school, but have now excelled both academically and in other areas. And they will admit a few athletes - but these are generally very high level, nationally ranked type people who are specifically needed by one of their programs to fill a specific need. For example, here is a release that came out a few days ago about a Harvard runner who is transferring, and will presumably fill a need on the track and cross country teams -<a href=“http://www.gostanford.com/sports/c-track/spec-rel/062112aab.html”>http://www.gostanford.com/sports/c-track/spec-rel/062112aab.html</a></p>
<p>I agree with the other responses that you should give your current program a chance - you have until March, I believe, to apply for transfer. You will make friends and hopefully develop an attachment to the college, and may very well have a change of heart. If you still want to transfer, just be sure you go through all the procedures, and realize that in case you are not accepted by a school like Stanford, it is really not a reflection on you - they are picking students to meet their needs, not necessarily yours - and it does not mean you are a failure or not good enough or whatever if you don’t get in. There unfortunately are just very few spots. And for people who are already attending very good colleges, it is a hard argument to convince them that you should take one of those places unless you really fit exactly into one of their needs.</p>
<p>Great post, thefarm. Welcome to CC.</p>
<p>Thanks so much for the feedback, everyone. I just attended an accepted students reception at my LAC and I think it’s growing a bit on me, haha. In the meantime I’ll focus on my LAC until a time comes that I feel the need to transfer.</p>