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Drew00 and fourkidsmom, how good are your kids at debate?
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<p>The kid I know who was recruited got pretty much all 5's. He went to nationals and stuff. The Debate teacher at my school talks about him like he's the second coming of christ</p>
<p>timing is an issue again...my D got a letter yesterday from Claremont talking about their debate program. If they want kids, don't you think they should mail out those things with the acceptance? rather than wait until the 21st when the acceptances are due in 10 days!!!!</p>
<p>I heard on another thread that policy debaters have better luck at getting recruitment for collegiate debate teams as opposed to LD debaters...is this true? One of our LD captains this year got a full ride to USC partly because of debate.</p>
<p>To the question about the National Debate Tournament... that's the NDT. College tournament, not high school.</p>
<p>You aren't usually "recruited", but it can definitely help you get in. I just graduated HS, and was State Champion in PFD, went to Nationals, was nationally ranked, etc. I know some other nationally ranked kids who were picked up by George Washington, UMiami, and a few others, but it definitely helped at some other schools, I truly believe it helped me get into Tufts, despite them not having a giant team. The only case in recent history where I can remember in that a person was recruited by a top school mainly because of debate was Tara Tedrow, an amazing LD'er from Celebration HS who won Nationals, was #1 for about 2 years, then again, she had 5 personal coaches, and got a full ride to Wake Forest. She's pretty cool though. So yeah, it's possible, and will definitely help, but getting "recruited" by a top school for debate is rare.</p>
<p>im going to nats in student congress this week. I think the most important tournament is the actual NFL National Tournament. There are many scholorships and such for placing and there are a lot of college recruiters out there. The TOC really doesn't make much of a difference I think. Im sure however, it looks really good on a college application, but the TOC isn't the most challenging tournament. You just have to meet the requirements and in some cases it isnt very difficult to do. All in all it is very difficult to get a scholorship with speech and debate, I do it cuz its super fun.</p>
<p>anybody know any other activites that colleges "recruit" for? </p>
<p>ie - journalism, etc..</p>
<p>i'm going to nationals for PFD.....tomorrow!!</p>
<p>"I think the most important tournament is the actual NFL National Tournament... TOC isn't the most challenging tournament. You just have to meet the requirements and in some cases it isnt very difficult to do"</p>
<p>That's incorrect. For NFL's, you only have to qualify at ONE local qualifier. For TOC, you have to get TWO bids at a national tournament like Harvard.</p>
<p>I at least know of a lot of schools that give tons of money to good debaters.</p>
<p>How would one find out how to qualify for the NFL or TOC (whatever that is...)?</p>
<p>Gonzaga (WA) and the University of Denver also recruit debaters.</p>
<p>What stance do UC's take on the issue of high school debate? Do they even have debate teams? How competitive are they?</p>
<p>Berkeley takes debate into consideration; not sure about the other campuses.</p>
<p>Yeah, Berkeley is competitive, but I've not heard of any of the other UCs having debate programs.</p>
<p>You can find a list of tournaments that will lead to TOC Bids (qualifications) at <a href="http://www.cross-x.com%5B/url%5D">www.cross-x.com</a> (as much as I dislike the site, it's useful for information like that. :)).</p>
<p>As for NFL, I'm pretty sure that you have to do that through your school.</p>
<p>BTW, at least in policy, the TOC is much more competitive than NFL Nats. :P</p>
<p>go to <a href="http://www.nflonline.org%5B/url%5D">www.nflonline.org</a> and you can find the topics</p>
<p>homersimpson getting a bid to the TOC is sometimes a lot easier to do then qualifying 1st or 2nd in your district. There are some very and I mean very competitive districts like in Florida who usually own large national tournaments in large numbers, but many of them do not qualify to nationals. Only the very best can qualify to nationals. Secondly not all TOC bid tournaments are that hard such as Harvard.</p>
<p>Check out Bradley University's Forensic Team:</p>
<p>"Bradley's Speech Team currently stands as the American Forensics Association and National Forensics Association national champions. The team has won 15 AFA titles and 12 NFA titles."</p>
<p>They give scholarship money too, I believe.</p>
<p>Even if in one district it may be harder to qualify for the NFL than in a certain TOC tournament, the fact is, the teams at the TOC are MUCH harder to beat overall than the teams at NFL nats-- every single one can be considered nationally ranked just for qualifying (twice), and the teams that clear are the best of the best.</p>
<p>Yeah, at our school, not many people qualify to TOC. Actually, nobody at our school goes to Nats, either. The main reason is that we are all student-coached, and with Varsity teaching the Novices, its harder for the varsity debaters to improve because they spend so much time helping the novices.</p>