Can the ACT REALLY replace your Sat score?

<p>I know alot of colleges say you can submit the ACT with writing instead of the SAT. Well I haven't yet taken the SAT, but my PSAT scores has been relatively low (at least to where I want to apply). On the other hand my SAT 2 scores have been excellent(790 on Math IIc and 780 in Biology). And now I just got my ACT scores back and recieved a 35. Which is equivalent to a score in the 1500's in the SAT (out of 1600). </p>

<p>I don't know if the 35 was a fluke, or I just liked the ACT more, but I can pretty much garuntee that I won't get close to anything like my ACT scores. My PSAT scores were in th 180's and I did try. So even if I dramatically improve them, I doubt they will be that high. </p>

<p>Any suggestions about whether I should take the SAT? Or if I send my ACT scores and SAT II's, will that be succifient? </p>

<p>Thanks for the help.</p>

<p>the ACT score converts into a high 1500's (1560-1590) according to the concordance table that most colleges use. Only a few schools pefer the SAT, such as Princeton and Wake Forest. Unless those two are on your list, forget about the SAT since your ACT scores are awesome. </p>

<p>btw: you didn't mention whether you took the Writing portion...you might check into some colleges that interest you to see if they requrie the ACT+W.</p>

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<p>It really depends on what colleges you're interested in. Wake Forest doesn't accept the ACT, for example. Most schools do, though. Check the requirements of the schools you want to apply to. Congrats on the great score!</p>

<p>Check out the thread "Common Data Sets." They have all the info about what each college requires.</p>

<p>Talk to your GC, but with a 35 ACT and those great SAT II's, you might not have to take the SAT I at all.</p>

<p>Your best bet would be to look at the colleges to see what they accept. Even schools that will accept the ACT in lieu of the SAT I wills till want sat II's </p>

<p>there was a time tha princeton would not take the ACT unless you used it for every school. I don't know if the policy changed this year.</p>

<p>For all colleges that you will find in any rankings, you are fine with the ACT with writing (and the SAT II's) except the following: Wake Forest and Harvey Mudd which do not take the ACT, and possibly Princeton -- it has an ambiguous rule that says it will take the ACT if all other colleges you are applying to require it and do not accept the SAT. There is some issue as to whether Princeton has now abandoned that rule and accepts the ACT. There is also some issue as to whether it actually followed that rule in the past since it has accepted students who submit the ACT and not the SAT despite that the rule would effectively bar that since colleges that take the ACT also take the SAT except for Brigham Young which requires the ACT. </p>

<p>There are actually a number of colleges that normally require SAT II's but accept the ACT with writing in lieu of both the SAT and SAT II's; among those: Yale, Penn, Brown, Johns Hopkins, Tuft, Ponoma, Amherst, Boston College, Vassar, Wesleyan, Wellesley, and others.</p>

<p>add Harvey Mudd on to the list requiring SATII's</p>

<p>unless your applying to princeton or wakeforest ( as mentioned above), i wouldnt take hte SAT. most schools state that they have no preference as long as you have the 2 SAT 2's. im a junior too, thats what the ivy level schools that ive looked at have said. </p>

<p>talk to you GC, he/she should have a better idea of how you stand/what you should do depending on where you are applying.</p>

<p>Thanks alot for the info guys...</p>

<p>And no, I'm not planning to apply to Wake Forest or Princeton (don't have a chance)</p>

<p>As far as the test i took, I did take it with the Writing, and I was looking for the conversion, and my score will probably get rounded to a 34 after I get my writing score I think. </p>

<p>Even so, I have another question...</p>

<p>Would it hurt me to take the SAT? (besides the 4.5 hours of pain on a Saturday morning). I'd predict I'd get a score betwenn 2000-2150. It's just for me, I never heard about the ACT until a couple months ago, and it just feels so wierd right now, for me not to have to take the SAT to apply to colleges. But at the same time, I wouldn't want to diminish what I did on the ACT.</p>

<p>PSAT in the 180s and 35 ACT?</p>

<p>That is the biggest difference i have ever seen....</p>

<p>Also, it really can. Someone was admitted to Yale with a 34 ACT.</p>

<p>Haha...yeah, I was as surprised as you. </p>

<p>But, when I was taking the Psat I did virtually no preparation and to be honest, really didn't care. However, for the ACT, I prepped alot. I bought several books, and worked through the practice tests, and I don't know, I think the test in general is just better than the SAT.</p>

<p>Also, I think the biggest factor was me just having a good day. I doubt I could get that same score again if I were to take it again, which is exactly why I'm hesitant to take the SAT.</p>

<p>Well...if you don't do as well on the SAT, then you always have your ACT score.</p>

<p>Most eastern schools, i think, prefer the SAT. I know they say that they don't favor either test, but I just have this stigma in my mind.</p>

<p>did you do the ACT with writing?</p>

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As far as the test I took, I did take it with the Writing, and I was looking for the conversion, and my score will probably get rounded to a 34 after I get my writing score I think.

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<p>The writing portion is scored separately and will not be factored into your overall composite score. So, your score of 35 won't get rounded down. Great job!</p>

<p>Good Job Man!
I would not take the SAT in your situation though.
Even if SOME schools may be slightly biased against ACT, they will not just drop a 35.</p>

<p>There is a poster called quiltguru who has a D who did exactly what your are proposing. She did better on her ACT and took SAT II. She never took the SAT's and is in EA to Yale. Do a search or PM quiltguru.</p>

<p>The only downside to taking the SAT I to just see what happens is that if you submit your SAT II's they will send your SAT 1. Schools say they will ignore it if your ACT is higher but I think you are better off staying with what you have. My D was in a very similar situation, 35 ACT, high 700's for SAT II's and not good SAT 1 scores on the old SAT. Luckily she improved significantly on the new SAT but still not quite as good as the ACT.</p>

<p>My daughter liked the ACT format better and did better on it on practice tests than on SAT practice tests. She only took the ACT. She's currently attending Brown. There was no stigma to the test that we could see, even given the fact that we live in SAT country.</p>

<p>There was a thread on the ACT board about this subject where folks mentioned getting into Ivies and such with ACT scores. Actually it seems to come up a lot. I just see no reason why colleges would lie about any test preference. They can have one if they want. But the trend has been for colleges to drop any requirements or preferences and take both, probably to attract applicants from throughout the country.</p>

<p>With a 35 ACT I see only a downside risk to taking the SAT.</p>

<p>Taking the SAT1 now seems like a very significant risk to me. If you're really really curious about how you would do on the SAT, do some prep and try taking the PSAT again. If your score jumps a lllot, maybe you could consider taking the SAT, but it would be a risk. </p>

<p>I say just don't do it. A 35 is awesome, so just go with it.</p>

<p>Yeah, you should do some practice tests. But a 35 on the ACT does replace the SAT just fine.</p>