Cap vs A&M

<p>hmmm yeah i really need help...</p>

<p>anyway yeah i got capped from UT..
UT is my number one school in the state and alot of my friends are going to UT. </p>

<p>Here is my problem... i know what the cap program is and how all i need is a 3.2 gpa and a min of 30 hours. I called the admission people and spoke with alot of people who had first hand experience at going to UT, A&M, and UT CAP.</p>

<p>in truth, i really want to be at UT and initially i decided to do UT CAP and get 1 year over with at UTA and then go to UT. however the problem is that if i dont meet the requirements.. which i knew i would have, i would have been at UTA or if i start to enjoy the lifestyle there, i would be stuck at UTA... not saying that UTA is a bad school...</p>

<p>Therefor by weighing my options i went to A&M. what I decided is to do a year and get core classes done at A&M and then transfer to UT the next year for Business.</p>

<p>Do you guys think this is an appropriate decision? although it is kinda late, i believe that i can call UT up and try to register for CAP and quit A&M.</p>

<p>so do u guys know how hard it is to transfer or should i have sticked with CAP?</p>

<p>I've heard transferring into UT business is extremely hard: both internal and external...sum1 correct me if I am wrong.
but if itsn't not, UT is an excellent choice and u should go for it.</p>

<p>but for wat? lol UT CAP or should i continue with my plan of transfering through A&M?</p>

<p>You know, if you're gonna transfer, then I have to ask you this: What if you can't transfer in or even enjoy your time there at A&M?</p>

<p>I see the same dilemma.</p>

<p>well the good thing about this is that if i cant go through with ut. i still have A&M which is still a fairly good university in texas. however even if i enjoy my time at A&M, i believe i would fit better at UT due to the fact that im Asian and that there is only.. .4% asian at the school. so im steeling myself already to make sure i do go through with the transfer.</p>

<p>Well if that's the case (being Asian), how about neither and apply for UC San Diego? Or Berkeley? But anyways...</p>

<p>Well, if you really want UT, stop enjoying UTA, or procrastinate, it's that simple.</p>

<p>But, since you've signed up with A&M already, might as well follow through that (UT can be stingy, and not get you aid), do great, and transfer in with as high of a GPA as possible.</p>

<p>What? Are you scared that A&M is too Conservative for you? or...?</p>

<p>My son was capped last year and is wrapping up his year at UTA next week. He'll take 31 hours from UTA and 43 hours of AP/IB/CLEP with him to Austin next fall. For him, CAP let him have a known path to UT where his friends are this year. They already have an apartment picked out for next fall and he has made about a half dozen trips to Austin this year on his own to hang with his friends.</p>

<p>If you really want to go to UT Austin and you are a good student not worried about getting a 3.2+ GPA in relatively easy classes at UTA then that certainly is the surest path to Austin. </p>

<p>A&M is a good school too. I would think you would just want to be sure it has what you are looking for because there is far less certainty going from A&M to Austin than doing the CAP program. CAP program is very clear. Get the GPA, send your transcript and you are in.</p>

<p>i called the admissions office before about what if you have alot of ap credits, he said it would be better to transfer in from another school...</p>

<p>so if in reality, cap would have been the better offer, do you believe that UT or UTA would still have an opening for me even though deadline was may 1st?</p>

<p>edit: oops it is actually june 1st... so that means i still have time to maybe decline my acceptance into A&M and just go to UT CAP Program...</p>

<p>anyway can i still have more information and opinon on this matter.. i am still very uncertain of what i should do and college is a major step that can not be treated lightly.. :/ lol my parents are going to kill me X(</p>

<p>im in the same position as you, i even reached the top ten percent after the deadline as well. i decided to go to a&m. the reason for that is that transferring into the business school externally is very hard, and they don't care if you go to harvard or ACC, so a kid from a community college with a slightly higher gpa will be accepted before you, as stupid as that is. If you do CAP, getting the 3.2 wont be the problem, its that you'll most likely get stuck in liberal arts when you do transfer (my brother did CAP and only got in to liberal arts with a 3.7). You may then have to take 5 years in order to get the degree you want.</p>

<p>kdm, why not try an appeal? I just got into the top 10% and already appealing.</p>

<p>i called admissions and they said that it wouldn't be grounds for appealing, and that because they already have to many kids attending that appeals wont even be taken seriously. they told me about the spring option, but im just to stubborn to get in by the law that i hate so much. I asked the lady why she felt i wasnt admitted, and after looking at my stats she straight up told me that even though i had a good test score and wrote good essays, it was because of the school i go to. its a great lesson knowing that its not how hard you work or how well you've done that will depend where you go in life, but how crappy a school you go to. im still bitter obviously, this shouldnt have been one of those lifes not fair moments, but knowing that my grandparents and their friends will no longer be donating annually because of this does help :)</p>

<p>That lady is full of crap, to be honest. If that is the answer she gave you, you should consider filing suit against UT as that is ILLEGAL under the top ten law. HB 588 covers all university admissions procedures, and "reputation of the student's high school" is not one of them. Plenty of kids with good stats who go to schools like Plano and Highland Park get rejected each year, so that is really not a legit argument. If that is the official reason an admissions rep told you, then either A) she doesn't know what she's talking about, or B) they are violating the law in their admissions process.</p>

<p>If you retain a lawyer and have him send a threatening letter that you will graduate in the top ten percent, applied by the admission deadline, and therefore are guaranteed admission under the law, they will be more likely to let you in. People tend to be scared of lawyers.</p>

<p>yeah seriously, it's by law, now once again they are more than likely to give you spring.</p>

<p>Just pretend that your summer vacation has extended from August to December for all your hard work during high school...</p>

<p>Or not.</p>

<p>yeah i figure i might as well just start at a&m and just transfer if i dont like it. i was shocked like you guys when she said that as even though thats what they sort of do (judging you by rank rather then gpa) that she told me it that way rather then just saying my class rank wasnt high enough. and yeah i hate lawyers, my parents would rather me go to community college before they'd ever let me talk to a lawyer. im sure they're following the law and everything, im sure she just told me that as opposed to explaining how going to a good school hurts me, but I did think using non traditional ways of affirmative action and having success, made still using traditional affirmative action illegal. i dont know why im under that impression. its not like they wouldnt let me in in spring, they just made it clear that an appeal would just be a waste of my time.</p>

<p>Kdm865, i'd call and talk to another admissions counselor. </p>

<p>If you choose A&M, you better check it out first, it is not for everyone. I'm currently an A&M student and am transferring to UT next year very likely (95% sure here, i'm in just have a few kinks to work out). If you're a very Austin type of a person, you'll find that the environment at A&M will not exactly suit you. The people at A&M are pretty cool and friendly (besides for the conservative views of the general population at A&M), the environment is a bit too too small for me. </p>

<p>There is nothing wrong with entering in the Spring though. It may make you seem/feel lazy to others/yourself... but if you really like Austin vs. College Station, it is most definately worth it. You can use that semester off to explore a bit, maybe travel to another country or maybe some career exploration. Contrary to what you're thinking, you can be fairly productive if you take one semester off. It won't slow you down at all as long as you have a few college hours already.</p>

<p>i really am more of an austin type of person, but grew up in a real small town and enjoyed that, and being white and somewhat conservative, i feel i'll fit in there enough. If i really dont like it, it'll just be more motivation to do well and transfer out. Ive already got 15 hours so if i take a heavy schedule i could even transfer out in the spring. Taking a whole semester off is just to long for me, and a think atleast right now, that a&m will be a good fit, plus it will save me a little money.</p>

<p>yeah im also an austin person or a city person and plus im asian so i really dont blend in well at A&M lol</p>

<p>anyway i also decided to go to A&M for this year and next year i will be transfering into A&M and try to get into its business school.</p>

<p>lol kdm865 i guess we will be seeing each other</p>

<p>haha im going to try to do that as well, as hard as it might be, atleast i'll blend in a little better then you lol, did you get into the business school at a&m? i made the mistake of putting political science as my first major.</p>

<p>You need to check wiht UT if you are now top ten to see what their policy is on entering another school and then using your HB 588 right to get in.</p>

<p>From what I've heard, they say you can't. This is illegal, at least under my interpretation of the law, but no one raises a fuss about it. That's the problem: people just give up. If you even had a lawyer call them, 95% of the time they do what you want to avoid the legal issues.</p>

<p>Remember: if you GRADUATE in the top ten percent and applied by the published deadline, you are REQUIRED by law to receive admission. It doesn't say "if you are in the top ten when you apply." So you are definitly entitled to admission at the school, and at least the way I read the law, you are guaranteed admission for the fall. If UT doesn't want to cooperate with you you should play hardball. Trying to go to TAMU or a CC is just going to add to the problems. If they don't admit you, extend your summer vacation and earn some tuition money by working, and enter in January. But you deserve to be admitted NOW and they are technically required to admit you by law. If they don't you should use legal action rather than backing down because you are depriving yourself of your rights.</p>

<p>Good luck.</p>

<p>And Dynasty, your logic seems kinda flawed.</p>

<p>Your main reason for not going to UTA seems to be that you are scared you will end up liking it. Why is that bad? If you are at a school you like, it's no big deal for you to stay. But if you don't, or if you like UT more, you have a tremendous option.</p>

<p>I would NOT try to start at TAMU if your heart is set on McCombs. TAMU is a much tougher school than people give it credit for and you will have a harder time earning a 4.0.</p>

<p>If your goal is just to get to UT, go to UTA. You are guaranteed admission with just a 3.2 (which certainly wouldn't get you transfer admisson), and if you really end up liking UTA then you really haven't hurt yourself because you are at a good school for you.
If your goal is to get into UT Business, go to a community college. You will save lots of money and boost your GPA. UT doesn't care if you're from Harvard or ACC, the higher your GPA, the better your transfer chances.
If you just want to do business, then TAMU would be your best bet. While it isn't McCombs, Mays is a solid school and you will be well prepared.</p>

<p>I would go with UTA myself. It really isn't as bad as people think, you save a lot of money, and you have a really great shot at transfering into a Public Ivy university.</p>