CC Research Help Needed--"LIBERAL" COLLEGES?

College Search & Selection
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<p>Considering the actual educational landscape, it might be wise to redefine the exercise with a terms such as VERY LIBERAL. Except for a small percentages of schools, all colleges ARE liberal, with only various degrees of “liberalism” to differentiate between the despicable, the repulsive, and the acceptable. It only takes the confusion between “liberalism and internationalism” to understand the depth of the problem. </p>

<p>It seems that it would be easy to analyze why some colleges have resisted the urge to completely turn themselves into something that hardly represents the political balance of this country.</p>

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<p>Legitimate question.</p>

<p>You can see the simple traffic light ratings here: [CollegeGuide.org</a> - Browse](<a href=“http://www.collegeguide.org/itembrowse.aspx]CollegeGuide.org”>http://www.collegeguide.org/itembrowse.aspx)</p>

<p>…but it’s really best to follow that up with a reading of the text – which is quite lengthy for each school they’ve reviewed – to understand the specifics of how they’ve arrived at a particular rating. This addresses their methodology: [CollegeGuide.org</a> - Frequently Asked Questions](<a href=“http://www.collegeguide.org/about_faq.aspx#faq3]CollegeGuide.org”>http://www.collegeguide.org/about_faq.aspx#faq3)</p>

<p>I have both the '08-'09 edition in hardcopy, and an online subscription. I gave away an older hardcopy edition. Other college guides read like comic books after reading this.</p>

<p>You can buy individual articles for $2.50 online. I think there may be a free sample online as well.</p>

<p>Notre Dame is kind of an interesting case, in that they’ve been under fire lately for NOT toeing the Catholic line to the satisfaction of some. BTW, they get a yellow.</p>

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<p>Macalester, based on the story I wrote about in this post:</p>

<p><a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/macalester-college/567587-mildly-disturbing-conversation-last-night.html?highlight=bird+rock[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/macalester-college/567587-mildly-disturbing-conversation-last-night.html?highlight=bird+rock&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>In terms of definitions, of course we are all defining “liberal” as leftist, not the traditional definition of open-minded. If we define “liberal” as meaning open-minded I vote for CMC.</p>

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<p>Claremont McKenna? </p>

<p>It’s somewhat liberal. But they proudly claim it’s got an even keel of both conservative and liberal students. As an added tidbit, when I talked to a Pomona student the breakdown of the 5 C’s came out such that CMC HAD to be Slytherin. Possibly because it’s packed with future leaders/politicians/economists/etc. xD</p>

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<p>Oh wow, there are so many lliberal colleges ( as you will find many universities) so I’ll just emphasize on a school I’ve been accepted into</p>

<p>1) College Name
University of Iowa</p>

<p>2) Your reason(s) for calling it “Liberal”
Research, other students</p>

<p>3) Your source of information (first-hand experience as a student or parent? friend of current student or alum? etc.)
Student, research</p>

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<p>Ah yes, Notre Dame allowed the President of the US on campus. YELLOW</p>

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<p>George Washington Univ. A good friend of mine just got his Master’s in Public Admin. His history professors did not call America’s first settlers “Puritans” or “Pilgrims.” He consistently referred to them as “the white, genocidal invaders.”</p>

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<p>Speaking of Columbia University… One thing I’ve noticed over the years… You hear often about how conservative speakers get boo’ed off campus by supposedly-tolerant liberal students and faculty… I can’t think of any episodes in which a liberal speaker was boo’ed or shouted down during a campus appearance.</p>

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<p>Wow - what a question. the answer is you can throw a dart and hit any one of about 99% of the colleges in America and you will hit a liberal one.</p>

<p>There really only are a handful of conservative colleges. The rest range from liberal to far left liberal to way way out there liberal</p>

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<p>Should a liberal be tolerant of intolerance ?
It’s a curious dilemma.</p>

<p>I suspect the intellectually correct answer is yes, although I have come down firmly on the NO side in my personal life. The whiny, high pitched voices make my hair stand on edge.</p>

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<p>Because all right-wingers/conservatives are intolerant, right?</p>

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<p>^yep, that’s exactly what the poster was saying.</p>

<p>I’m surprised NYU hasn’t been listed yet. So here it is: NEW YORK UNIVERSITY!!</p>

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<p>This whole premise is quite hilarious. Hmmmm . . . let me think really, really hard and see if I can come up with one or two “liberal” colleges - just so hard!!!</p>

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<p>I think that University of Chicago has a great HISTORY of respect for great intellectual thinkers, but the campus leftists are doing their very best to change that great history:</p>

<p>"100 Profs at University of Chicago: No Milton Friedman Institute </p>

<p>The University of Chicago has committed to a new Milton Friedman Institute at their school of economics. Friedman’s contributions to the field of economics have become a staple of the field recognized by any legitimate economist.</p>

<p>However 100 leftist professors from the University of Chicago signed a letter asking the university to “divest” from the venture” </p>

<p>In a group letter, these faculty members express that they are “disturbed by the ideological and disciplinary preference implied by the University’s massive support for the economic and political doctrines that have extended from Friedman’s work.” In particular, they argue, “When the University of Chicago invests so heavily in culturally and politically conservative thought we wonder about its commitment to strong intellectual diversity in the tradition of the Kalven Report.”</p>

<p>To put it simply Friedman was an economic conservative/libertarian and these leftist professors want his work and research into his work censored for all practical purposes by the University of Chicago solely based on Friedman’s legitimate and hailed viewpoint. "</p>

<p>Milton Friedman was arguably the most influential professor ever to grace the halls of this hallowed institution. The “intellectual” leftists from the Women’s Studies and Advanced Basketweaving programs want his name erased from their history. </p>

<p>Fabulous. How Progressive of them.</p>

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<p>It’s not necessarily that conservatives/right-wingers are automatically intolerant or even less tolerant than a liberal. That’s not the statement. The statement is: Should a liberal tolerate intolerance of ANY kind, even from fellow liberals? </p>

<p>@Bird Rock. Did you… </p>

<p>Did you read what you wrote before you posted? Honestly curious. Liberals have to resort to character assasination and distraction because they can’t argue a debate, and yet what are you doing aside from posing liberals as a monolith of people who can’t argue their way out of a box? </p>

<p>Anyways,</p>

<p>School: Middlebury</p>

<p>Why: With them being known for intense language schooling, I’m not particularly surprised that they’d have an international focus on things, and put forth a lot into diversity/multi-culturalism. I doubt the campus entirely reflects this in terms of ethnicity, but it is the rare college that does… At any rate, they have several ‘green’ projects, and sent me a wonderful view book on recycled paper that proudly touted the fact that Vermont has socialists within its government (and you could possibly meet them in town!)</p>

<p>Source: College View Book</p>

<p>As in response to the cries of: U of Chi!</p>

<p>I have to say: Firstly, there is no basket-weaving program. I wouldn’t be surprised if they have one, but I looked through their course catalogue and they DON’T. It’s offensive to find Women studies to have the same importantance as basket weaving- that major doesn’t MAKE you a leftist, it’s not intellectualism lite, and if it was, could you by any stretch of the means picture U Chi having it?</p>

<p>Secondly, there’s always been a divide between U of Chi’s left and U of Chi’s economists. (As the admissions officer bashfully stated: You either really like our economics school, or you blame us for the current state of the economy…[because it was that school of thought in action]. ) </p>

<p>At any rate, it’s not surprising for one side of the line to say: “Whoa, hey. Why are you investing so much in a political ideal over another ideal? Is that really fair?” It’s not as if the School of Economics has fallen by the wayside or anything. U of Chi also started the original school of Sociology-- so why is there no Sociology Center money coming through?</p>

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<p>Do you feel this is untrue?</p>

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<p>Pot. Kettle. Black.</p>

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<p>Yes. The original European settlers didn’t have to be genocidal-disease did that work for them. It was out of their control.</p>

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<p>There are no races that have not at some point in history been genocidal invaders. Professors who present that any particular race is more prone to this characteristic than others is disengenuous or grossly uninformed about history and thereby a danger in the classroom.</p>

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<p>There’s a lot of commentary here about the extent to which college campuses reflect liberalism, and the inference is that there’s some inherent bias within certain institutions that lead them to promote liberal views at the expense of conservative views. But a liberalization of social views is one of the consistent outcomes of a higher education (see “How College Affects Students” by Pascarella and Terenzini). It’s the educational breadth itself that tends to foster a liberal climate. P&T did a meta-analysis of three decades of research on college outcomes and found the liberalizing of attitudes to be a norm.</p>

<p>IMO, the reason is that all of us are raised in a particular setting or settings by certain people in certain cultural milieus who tend to reflect their own particular values. When a student goes to college (according to student development theory), they begin to encounter far greater degrees of difference than they probably had an opportunity to encounter in their home setting(s). The typical response to that difference often begins with condemnation of different values and ideas, then a growing awareness that there may be multiple ways of perceiving that are neither all wrong nor all right, then an emerging respect for different viewpoints that may add greater degrees of insight to one’s own positions. And the willingness to view things from multiple viewpoints and accommodate different interpretations of what’s right or appropriate is a core characteristic of the orientation that we label “liberal” (in fact, that’s why we refer to it as “liberal,” which means “broad” or “unbounded”).</p>

<p>That doesn’t necessarily mean that political liberals are smarter than conservatives. It does however, tend to reflect a higher degree of education as opposed for example, to narrower career-focused training.</p>

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<p>GADad.
Some truth to your theories. What that does NOT explain is why tolerance is accepted on campuses for all values EXCEPT for traditional ones. THAT is the rub. Just came home from a visit from our local state school which has a wonderful academic reputation…including top 10 B-School and top Music school. There is a lot of local discussion about a campaign by atheists who are putting the “You can be good without God” message forward. In itself, that is thought and dialogue provoking. Unfortunately, a large element of the student and academic population has used that as an opening for vehemently hostile anti-Christian rhetoric. It is all over the student newspaper, scrawled all over the campus…even saw “F*** Jesus” on a school sponsored bulletin board. This intolerance would not be tolerated toward any other belief system. And there are schools where such incivility (toward anyone) would be unacceptable. It isn’t reflective of intellectualism. It is reflective of repressive leftist group-think. And it is driving intelligent people of a more conservative nature off of these campuses…leaving those who are left with a decidedly singular viewpoint. That is not what intellectualism is about. Looking at some of the nation’s best conservative schools, their statistics are getting better and better because they are drawing from a higher and higher subset of conservative intellectuals who are tired of dealing with it at the ripe old age of 18. They are tired of the fight. And they were raised with better manners.</p>