CC to Ivy

<p>the part of your statement that i considered idiotic was that ‘yale discourages people from 4-year colleges from applying.’ you do realize that nearly all of yale’s transfer classes have come from 4-year universities, right?</p>

<p>Do you claim to know nearly all Yale’s transfer students? I realize there aren’t many, but I doubt you’d be able to find actual figures on that. At the very least you should qualify your argument by saying that common sense dictates that most of Yale’s transfers are from 4-year universities (which I would have agreed with).</p>

<p>I’m just wondering, if you apply to transfer to Ivy, which one has higher transfer rate, transferring into freshmen or sophomore?</p>

<p>Btw if you transfer after 1 year at CC, then do you have to transfer into sophomore? Or can you transfer into freshmen year?</p>

<p>(I’m still a high schooler so don’t really much about these transfers).</p>

<p>This forum has several great (lengthy) threads on this subject. One is at:</p>

<p><a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/transfer-students/465387-success-stories-bad-hs-record-w-great-college-record.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/transfer-students/465387-success-stories-bad-hs-record-w-great-college-record.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>If you take the time to work hard and excel at a community college, lots of four year colleges will look seriously at your transfer application. </p>

<p>The fact that you’re aiming primarily at top schools like Harvard, UPenn, Yale, etc, may simply be indicative that you haven’t done your homework yet.</p>

<p>peg92, I know all the Yale transfers from this year, and out of the 22 or so, two are from deep springs and one is from a “real” community college.
As far as safeties go, random UCs are reasonable. Berkeley isn’t. I know too many people who didn’t make the cut for presumably silly reasons.</p>

<p>Then I stand corrected!</p>

<p>Just a quick question:
@sonomono: The ones who transferred from CC, are they from out of state CC or in state CC?</p>

<p>Apparently, Yale doesn’t care about in vs out of state. What seemed to have mattered is that the dean of transfer admissions knew the college. In this case, de anza college, in California.</p>

<p>Honestly, if you did so incredibly bad in hs that all you could get into was a community college…you shouldn’t be going to an Ivy. Kids who made it in as freshmen worked their butts off for 4+ years. Literally non-stop, super motivated, brilliant and do all the things you’re doing now at a community college in hs and even more. A year of A’s at a community college makes you nowhere near Ivy material. And it’s tough! As said above, ivies have 1%-9% admissions for transfers, and most of them are from top schools that aren’t quite ivy. Don’t get your hopes up. Try for lower safety schools. Think of ivies as very high reaches, not “have a very good shot at getting in”. Now, I don’t know your application, what you’ve done, etc, but even if its really good, really good as a RD applicant doesn’t cut it. As a transfer, even less. Georgia Tech is a veryyyyy good school for sciences and a top 10 business school. University of Florida has a good business program, too.</p>

<p>Then can you transfer to Yale at the end of your 2nd year at CC ?</p>

<p>Transfer to Cornell is easier that to UC. Berkeley, Some CC even has guaranteed admission program with cornell with gpa of 3.5, whereas ucb has non.</p>

<p>@ljsphilobe
thats such a load a crap…berkeley admits over 3000 transfer students every FALL SEMESTER with 11000 applying ( this is only for fall and not spring). whereas cornell accepts less than 600 students with over 6000 applying for both fall and spring</p>

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<p>Thanks to sonomono for the update on Y transfers. To add to his data, my D1 just graduated from Y this spring, after transferring as a soph in fall 2008. She knew all of the transfers the first 2 years and most of them the 3rd year she was there, none were from CCs. A year or two before her, there was a transfer from a CC (they were also a poster here on CC). There are regularly transfers from Deep Springs, but while it’s a 2 yr school, it is not analogous to a CC. I’m glad Y took down their statement as it was very misleading.</p>

<p>@juli, doing good in high school and doing bad in high school but doing great in college have nothing to do with whether anyone “shouldnt” go to an ivy. </p>

<p>The presumptions made by your statements…</p>

<p>@julieannab: I usually refrain from saying things like this out of courtesy to others, but I think it’s highly unfair of you to judge another’s work ethic based on the fact that they’re presently in or have attended community college. I think you’re relying heavily on stereotypes of both Ivy League and community college students. Just because someone is a community college transfer student doesn’t mean that they don’t have the potential or the intelligence to be at an Ivy League campus, whether it’s for their undergraduate or even graduate career. There are many bright people out in the world that will never attend such a prestigious school; and what about students who choose not to go to an Ivy League, despite having been admitted to one?</p>

<p>It might sound crazy to you, but there are so many factors out there that could influence whether or not someone chooses to go to an Ivy League or not. Your post is truly an insult to myself and to the incredibly dedicated, hardworking students that I met at my community college prior to transferring. Even at my current four-year school, I have yet to meet people of such intelligence, apart from a select few. Nearly all of the students I met at community college have gone off to equally prestigious schools, e.g. Berkeley, UCLA, etc. I even know someone who got into UCLA and USC as a senior, but had to go to community college for financial reasons. Does this mean they don’t deserve to go there again because they didn’t get in as seniors? Sheesh!</p>

<p>My opinion, however, probably is of little worth to you considering that I attended community college prior to transferring to my current school, and hence, I’m of “lower intelligence and ability.” Nevertheless, you ought to change your narrow-minded perspective of who can attend an Ivy League (or equally prominent) school.</p>

<p>*as a senior</p>

<p>you attended the California community college system, which has transfer agreements with UCLA/Berkeley. UCLA/Berkeley, public universities of the state of california, are REQUIRED to accept community college students, the vast majority of their classes are comprised of those students. CCC students also apply in large numbers to USC and make up an extremely large portion of their applicant pool. using the community college system of california as an example of the community colleges across the country is stupid.</p>

<p>if you have yet to meet people at your four-year university of “such intelligence” as your community college, then you are doing it wrong and you are going to a sub-par university. and yes, in most cases, students are community colleges are of lower intelligence and ability, there really is no denying this. there is a reason that community college students to Cal/UCLA struggle so much and can’t handle the difficulty of the work</p>

<p>i think you missed the point julieannab is trying to make. a student who did so poorly in high school that they did not even take the SATs and now has to attend a community college, should not be so transfixed with trying to get into an ivy league school, especially with unreasonable expectations like applying to harvard, a school with literally a 1% transfer acceptance rate. it’s a completely different story if we were talking about a kid who did very well in high school with high grades and high SAT’s, but had to attend a community college for financial reasons, but this is not the case for the OP</p>

<p>Hahaha Berkeley and UCLA “have transfer agreements with CCC.” Clearly you aren’t very familiar with the system at all which quite frankly makes you an extremely unreliable source. TAG agreements are beginning to decline. You can no longer TAG UCLA or Berkeley. While they both are required to take instate transfer students, so does every other state school.</p>

<p>My guess is one you haven’t been to a community college and two have no statistical evidence to back up the claim that community college students are of lower intelligence. </p>

<p>That is the stupidest thing I have honestly ever heard. It’s extremely ignorant to think that as well. You are EXTREMELY narrow minded if you think that you yourself are better than a hardworking CC student.</p>

<p>Also just some perspective. High school do you really think high school is that important? I mean you are taught the basics. Do you really get a mastering of calculus from a guy with a bachelors and no further education?</p>

<p>Your post is highly offensive and based on the fact that you seem to know nothing about the CCC system you shouldn’t be talking about it.</p>

<p>(please don’t give me any of that “TAP” program bs)</p>

<p>the STATE of california is required to admit students from California community colleges. i wasnt exactly referring to TAG or w/e, i was referring to the fact that UCs are first and foremost for california residents, and priority is given to California community college students. as a result, CCC students make up the vast majority of UC transfer classes</p>

<p>if you can’t accept the fact that most community college students are of lesser aptitude than their 4-year counterparts, then you are truly the ignorant one here.
and yes, i have actually taken a class at a community college, and know/talked to several people who are/have attended them. the classes are significantly easier. there is a reason why so many 4-year university students take their difficult classes at community colleges</p>

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<p>you just proved my point. if you can’t even excel in high school, where you are taught basics and pretty much just need a pulse to do well, then how can you expect to do well in college, where the work is significantly more difficult? I never said high school was important. someone who did so poorly in HS that they had to go to a community college is not even qualified to go to an ivy league school</p>

<p>So does every state funded school that is paid for by taxpayers?</p>

<p>I’m going to stop now because I can just tell this is not going anywhere.</p>