<p>How does that prove your point you are not taking into account that you don’t need to know what you are going to do when you are 15 nor should you. You just proved my point the classes are easy and don’t really teach you much it’s debatable.</p>
<p>My point was it wasn’t that vital and the kids that didn’t try aren’t really hurt by it when they can learn a lot more at a community college. The courses better prepare you for calculus and other topics. I mean these guys have PhDs.</p>
<p>@Scienceguy1: Thank you for backing me up! I absolutely cannot stand the community college stereotype. I was initially admitted to a four-year school as a senior, and I couldn’t go for both financial and emotional reasons. Back then, I was extremely prejudiced about community college students, and the thought of attending one made me cringe. Going to one made me realize how wrong I was; it was perhaps one of the most humbling experiences I’ve gone through. The one I went to specifically had one of the highest transfer rates in the state. </p>
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<p>Wow! Thank you so much for insulting the four-year university I go to! It is far from being “subpar.” We have top-notch professors in every department who have wonderful educational backgrounds, some of who attended Ivy League schools. Does that mean one of the professors in my department has significantly lowered in his intelligence since he went to Yale and now teaches here? We are also a high-ranked state school. However, I’m sure that even with my particular department’s recent achievement of having the top-ranked history student journal in the nation, and of having its honors society awarded as the top national chapter for the past several years, it would still be “unsatisfactory” from your perspective. Oh wait, that’s still not good enough for you because it’s not Harvard, or Yale, or Princeton! I’ll never measure up to people of “your” intelligence! I’m not worthy! </p>
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<p>No, you’re missing the point. People who have such prejudiced opinions about community college students, like yourself and julieannab, are the ignorant ones here. There are plenty of good and bad students at every campus, no matter how prestigious it is, and no matter whether it’s a community college or a four-year university. Bad, struggling students exist everywhere, whether you accept that or not. </p>
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<p>This is horribly prejudiced and naive. I’m sure you will work with people in the future who were transfer students, and you may not ever know it. You might even consider them intelligent. What would you think if you were to find out that they once attended community college? Would you then quit your job simply because they’re “lower” in intelligence and perhaps class than you apparently are? Just imagine telling your supervisor this: “I’m sorry, Mr./Mrs. Boss, but due to Coworker’s lower level of intelligence and their subpar education, I’m going to have to cease my duties here, and move on to a job with people of equal intelligence to my own.” Good grief. </p>
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<p>They’re not required to admit students from a California community college. The admissions boards do give priority to CCC applicants, but, according to your logic, if they were required to admit them, then every CCC applicant who applied to UCLA, for example, would be accepted. It doesn’t work the way that you think it does. Clearly, as scienceguy mentioned, you have very little knowledge of the CCC system. Even with TAG or TAP “agreements,” the admissions process remains highly competitive even among CCC students. I’m pretty darn sure too that the admissions officers aren’t staring at a good CCC student application, thinking, “Ew, they’re from a community college! What a loser! Let’s toss this!” What the admissions process has boiled down to, apart from having a strong GPA, is the personal statement, the amount of applicants to the particular department, and the fulfillment of both general education and major course preparation. Even then, having satisfied every particular requirement doesn’t necessarily mean that you’ll be admitted, regardless of how intelligent you may be. </p>
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<p>Oh golly gee, how did you lower yourself to such a dreadful level of education, even for just one class?! How you must have suffered in the presence of such dimwitted individuals!</p>
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<p>Have you ever considered that some students get their act together and do significantly better in college than they ever did in high school? I’ve heard of plenty of people that I went to high school with that weren’t the greatest students, and who are now earning top marks and gaining fantastic internship opportunities - at top notch four-year universities. Even so, I know a few people who are still at community college, waiting to transfer to a four-year school, who are all very bright students with amazing capabilities and potential. Students grow up and change over time. Just because someone was pitiful in high school, doesn’t necessarily mean they’ll be just as pathetic in college. Yes, it still does happen, but most students do eventually buckle down and begin to value their education.</p>
<p>I’m usually not this upfront with people, but I can’t believe how prejudiced the remarks you’ve made are. If there’s anyone who needs to go through a humbling experience, such as spending a year in the life of a hardworking community college student with absolutely no connection to this snooty bubble that you apparently live in, it’s you. I say this because as I previously mentioned to scienceguy, I used to be as prejudiced as you were about community colleges and their students. Whether you like it or not, you’re in for a major rude awakening, whether it’s now or in the future.</p>
<p>(Then again, I’m sure you’ll discredit everything that I’ve written because I go to a “subpar” university. Whoops, my bad.)</p>
<p><em>high five</em></p>
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<p>Gee, good thing you’re just a fr in college, if I’d have known that when I was younger, I would never have:</p>
<p>CCC >>> UCB, graduated Phi Beta Kappa >>> PhD >>> 30 yrs as a research scientist</p>
<p>Entomom you’re my hero! That’s exactly what I hope to become!</p>
<p>I hereby give both scienceguy and entomom brownie points for their comments! And seriously, that was a fantastic point you made, entomom.</p>