Chance for Harvard, MIT, Princeton, and Stanford

<p>My brain keeps switching between there is/isn't hope. I thought you guys could help me decide:</p>

<p>SAT Score: 2090
Maths: 760
Writing: 660
Reading: 670</p>

<p>Subjects:
Chemistry: 800
Maths Level 2: 760</p>

<p>4 As in my AS Level in Chemistry, Maths, Economics, Physics.</p>

<p>Extra Curricular:
Parliamentary debating. Represented a country in the World School's Debating Championship 2013, Turkey.
A few local MUNs. I won most outstanding delegate at one of them.
Captain of the table tennis team in Grade 9 & 10. Won inter school tournaments.
Did the DEEP Summer Academy at the University of Toronto (does this even matter?)
Also I play squash :P</p>

<p>Work experience:
Chemistry Teacher's Assistant: I help other students grasp concepts and stuff.</p>

<p>Awards:</p>

<p>Bronze and Silver International Awards for Young People. Basically that involves going on an expedition, playing a sport (in my case table tennis and cricket), learning a skill (chess and programming), and doing volunteer work (volunteering at an animal shelter to walk dogs and clean baboon cages (once)). Played the sports for a total of 36 hours over 9 months, skill the same, and volunteer work 72 hours over 9 months.</p>

<p>Ranked with distinction in the following Waterloo Maths Contests:
Euclid
Fermat
Galois
Also participated in others.</p>

<p>0…the sat scores…+foreign application…+never head of Waterloo Math Contest…+ only bronze and silver…only a few local MUN awards.</p>

<p>^ I highly doubt wcao person is right. In reality, we are no one to judge your stats as we are not members of any admissions comity. However, we can make guesses and my guess is that you have a shot. But then again, many individuals have a shot. In the end, it all depends on God’s will. Good Luck!</p>

<p>Unfortunately getting admitted as an international is very difficult at all of those schools. Your SAT scores are about 150+ plus points below the average student at all of those schools, and probably even farther below average for those accepted from the international pool. This along with a lack of a true hook outside of your academics probably means that you have a very small shot at all of these schools.</p>

<p>I’d say wcao is right. I don’t want to say 0, but it’s basically 0. You have no big awards and SAT is below average. For an international to get in at these schools, they’d have to be outstanding, and well, I don’t think you’d have a good chance even if you weren’t international.</p>

<p>There are so many great schools that you could get in with your scores. Focus on them as well.</p>

<p>I will give my SAT again in January because that’s the last time I can give the SAT. This was the first time giving my SAT.</p>

<p>Im a new speaker on the circuit. You’re Pak Team? Damn. Nice. What school. I can probably guess who you are with your school?</p>

<p>You probably can’t guess. It’s a big A-Level school.</p>

<p>I’d say you have a chance at MIT, from EA accepted student.
It really depends on your essays, and about you being passionate and enthusiastic.
If you really want an accurate rank, talk about what your major/s will be and what you wrote in your essays. And ignore wcao9311, honestly.</p>

<p>YouR SATs are OK but in the lower quartile for all those schools. All those schools would be a reach for anyone, even someone with a 2300. Those schools have gotten like a lottery at this point because there are so many well qualified applicants with many ECs and they still get denied. i woukd definitely apply to some safeties. Good luck though! Chance me? <a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/what-my-chances/1596425-chance-me-georgia-tech-duke-please.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/what-my-chances/1596425-chance-me-georgia-tech-duke-please.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>Okay, so I want to do a double major in maths and computer science. Should I just post my essays here?</p>

<p>I cannot process your scores like the college admission committee, but I can tell you this, I was once in the similar situation. My school counselor said something which I’ve not been able to forget, you will never know if you do not apply. So apply and find out. I know it sounds very commonsensical but many do not apply and self-censure, therefore never finding out. So do not make that mistake and apply if your gut says that it is worth a shot.</p>

<p>@kathleentown EXACTLY have no worries if you think your SAT score is not good enough you could always give it again most people do it 3 times. I’m an A-2 student in Pakistan and i am probably in a situation thats worse than yours but i don’t let that get to me i am trying my best. Even if you didn’t get accepted it doesn’t matter you can always try to transfer from your future uni to an ivy. I had 4A<em>2A2B in my o levels which is absolutely ridiculous
if you;re applying to an IVY. I am trying to as many Internships and extracurricular in the time i have left
I had 2A</em>1A1B in my A1 and i still haven’t given my SAT </p>

<p>Look these chance threads are so crazy…but me looking at this, I actually think you have a decent chance at <em>all</em> of these schools…you sound interesting, smart, worldly, and off-beat,i would go for it. </p>

<p>@imu1996 - honestly, I think your chances are poor at all of these schools. Your qualifications are not exceptional. I’m assuming you are from Pakistan based on previous posts. I checked and Harvard had 14 students from Pakistan last year and MIT had 6. Keep in mind that’s the total undergraduate population. I would bet that all of those students have some sort of hook or are exceptional academically.</p>

<p>It doesn’t hurt to try as long as you are willing to pay the application fees, but be forewarned that it takes a lot of effort to craft a quality application and there will likely be no reward.</p>

<p>If you won’t require financial aid, there are hundreds of colleges in the USA that would love to have you. If you require financial aid, then the list of schools provide full need-based aid for internationals is very small, and all are highly selective.</p>

<p>The silver lining - earning your undergraduate degree outside the USA and then coming here for graduate school is a very realistic goal, especially in science and technology.</p>

<p>@Dreamer3894 - transferring into these schools is notoriously difficult, with acceptance rates far below freshman acceptance rates.</p>

<p>unlikely…reaches on most</p>

<p>@BldrDad‌
I understand what you mean but you can never know until you try your best and go for it, its always better to take a chance especially when you have nothing to loose ( Fee Waiver anybody?) . I have changed drastically even my friends barely recognize me as the same person i was six months ago and i plan to stay this way. And BTW according to a Harvard representative i met yesterday she said that its relatively easier to get into those schools because the number of the applicants applying are a lot less. She was at an event organized by another branch of our school a lot of other university representatives were there in case you were wondering.</p>

<p>@Dreamer3894 - Good point on fee waivers - at least Harvard will consider grant fee waivers to international applicants. I’m not sure about the others.</p>

<p>I’m not sure what you mean by “its relatively easier to get into those schools”. It’s very difficult to get into these schools,even with top qualifications. I doubt they would accept less-qualified international applicants to meet a quota.</p>

<p>I agree that you never know until you try, but there are some candidates who have little or no chance. If there is no chance, the applicant should know it. If they have little chance, they need to make sure they craft the strongest possible application to improve their chances. A very strong candidate can afford to be a little lazy as they are more likely to be accepted on their merits alone.</p>

<p>I’m not saying the OP cannot get accepted, but they should recognize that the odds are not good, and also consider other alternatives.</p>