Would this be going to an affiliated CC but living on Rowan campus?
Essentially yes. The cc around south Jersey are now named Rowan College of South Jersey with campuses in Gloucester, Cumberland, Burlington and Camden counties (I could be forgetting one). They arenât called community colleges or county colleges anymore. My coworkers son did 2 years at one of them, was accepted to Flagler in FL and before starting in FL won an accounting internship at one of the big 4 for the summer after his first year at Flagler but they started having him attend all expenses paid conferences while still at RCSJ. Because he followed the direct pathway for accounting he could have seamlessly started at Rowan University as a junior accounting major without needing to catch up like often happens in programs with a set schedule of required courses
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Got it. I would much rather not have to face my parents with CC, but if all else fails, this seems like a great option! Do you have to finish two years there, or is there an earlier path to Rowan?
Click on the link, it says something like 24-30 something credits at RCSJ with a GPA requirement for transfer into Uni
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I donât know your folks but they should be proud of you either way. A community college is the first two years - you can still get a four year degree like a student entering a four year school up front.
Many will take you - but you need to make sure you apply to those.
You are seeking names that are likely outside your reach.
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The RCSJ-> Rowan pathway sounds perfect for you. You can apply to Rowan EA and, if denied (likely, alas, prepare yourself), you can then apply to RCSJ. That application can be completed after you receive the Rowan decision.
Can you count the total number of honors/AP/DE classes taken over 4 years of HS?
Are you getting straight As now?
Is a 2.5 âthat badâ? Yes. It typically indicates someone who will graduate high school and not go to college, or perhaps a community college, probably part time. It means many high school level courses have not been mastered and they may start with remedial classes. Typically students with many C grades did not take Honors classes let alone APs and completed the basic minimum (math through Algebra2, 2 years of foreign language, 4 years of regular English, 1 year of regular us history and 1 year of social science, regular biology and perhaps chemistry but no physicsâŠ) It means majors like Finance, where quantitative achievement and prestige matter, are completely out.
Do your parents know your GPA? Certainly they must have seen your grades. If so, they must be expecting Community College will be brought up wrt college. Have they met with your GC? If they havenât, nowâs the time to do so, so they understand your college list and donât insist on choices like Babson or TCNJ. (And also if you worry they will explode at the discovery youâre not getting into these colleges, for you to have a buffer.)
Or do they think the 1510 will somehow âreplaceâ the GPA?
Because of the extreme discrepancy (basically, your uw gpa would read as âbottom 50% not to say bottom 20% of a general HSâ v. Top 1% academically) your record will make adcoms pause. But a 3.0 is already low for most colleges on your list. So, yes, 2.5 is really that bad, even if 3.1 weighted helps a bit and thatâll depend on your rigor (did you take 5 or 6 academic classes every year?) And how many honors classes you did take.
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I took almost no academic classes per year. We use the academic > accelerated > honors/AP system, and almost all my classes are at the accelerated level. I have taken about four APs over the last two years, and have taken a few dual enrollments and honors on top of those. Iâm taking 3 AP classes right now, and I should graduate with an A- minimum in them, but first marking period might be like a B/B-. I will have an A+ in two accelerated classes and one honors class, guaranteed.
Ok, so your school uses âacademicâ the way I use âregularâ.
Can you count how many (total) honors+AP+DE youâve taken?
If I count correctly youâd have 7 APs by the end of senior year so the number would be higher than 7 but how much?
(For instance, to have a shot at PSU UP DSU/SUMMER youâd need that number to be 15-20 and accelerated doesnât count - when you fill your application&SRAR there should be a grid where you indicate how many years or units in each subject you took bc itâs a way they homogeneize all the transcripts they get. Susquehanna Business or Baruch may be okay with 12 as long as you took precalculus honors or AP calculus. )
Then can you indicate what classes you took in each category:
- ENGLISH
- MATH
- HISTORY/SOCIAL SCIENCE
- SCIENCE
- WORLD LANGUAGE
- OTHER
This will help us evaluate your curriculum rigor. It has to be decent since your 2.5 uw goes to 3.1w but this way we can see what collefes will see and thus level colleges weâre talking about.
In the meantime, investigate Drew, Hartwick, St Michaelâs.
Iâll bring up a PG year again. At a school I know, all the PG students are either very smart kids with EF issues (they need actual evidence) or snow-related athletes.
Talk to your parents.
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Iâve taken 5 APs total, AP CSP, CSA, Econ(both) and Art History. my choir class has been an honors class for two years, and I took Geometry honors in freshman year. I was screwed over by a teacher in my Alg II class(despite me having straight A+s and a math PSAT over 600, he put me in the remedial classes because, and I quote, âI donât like youâ). As a result, the math classes I have taken are:
Geo H
Alg II standard
Integrated Math B
now College Stats accelerated
Yes, Iâm aware thereâs no Calc on there. I couldnât do anything about that. We petitioned to have the teacherâs decision overturned, but it was apparently binding since he intentionally waited until the last day to get it assigned.
Other classes
English:
English 1, 2, 3, 4 (All accelerated)
History:
History 1, 2(DE), 3, AP Art history(others accelerated)
Science:
Bio Accel, Chem Accel, Physics Standard(was tied to math placement, got screwed out of this too. Physics teacher did write glowing rec of my skill though)
WL:
Spanish 3, Spanish 4(DE, honors)
Other:
Java 1, Choir all four years(two of which honors, others standard), AP CSP, AP CSA, AP ECON.
APS available at my school: all history APS(I just didnât qualify, thatâs on me), APES(tied to Calc), AP BIO(tied to calc), AP LANG(didnât qualify), Seminar(tied to math), all math APS other than precalc(you can only take 1, and I wasnât allowed to take any)
APS are strictly regulated at our school, with the best students only having taken 5-9.
Iâll bring up a PG year again. At a school I know, all the PG students are either very smart kids with EF issues (they need actual evidence) or snow-related athletes.
Iâll talk to them. I did actually get into Exeter when I applied in 8th, but chose not to go for financials and staying closer to home.
Okay, so thatâs 9 total courses for the honors/AP/DE total. Itâs going to be pushing it at Susquehanna or Drew and means its lokely pointless to apply to UP even DUS Summer since itâs far below the 15 mark; it may be more efficient to apply directly to Altoona .
Does Integrated Math B include precalculus? If so, your GC will have to make that clear. Integrated Math B sounds like remedial algebra2. And since you end with Statistics it looks like you had NEITHER Precalculus nor (obvs) calculus. (This is totally in-line with a 2.5 GPA but not with a 1510 SAT.)
IOW, you wonât be eligible for many 4-year college business programs from your list or will have to take remedial math first. Youâre supposed to take Precalculus senior year for business schools though at most schools on your 1st list many if not most successful applicants would have taken precalculus and calculus.
Your SAT score does indicate you understand Algebra and precalc, so you could CLEP Precalculus ASAP if you feel that youâre able to do well on it without a class and ibdicate the score on your app or have it sent somehow
then register for Calc1 at the closest communtiy college - this would likely involve driving or taking public transportation after HS classes so make sure you have time and that your parents agree. The CC calculus class would be listed as a spring semester class on CommonApp.
Any PG year, not Exeter-level, would help you at this point.
Good luck with your GC appointement and make another one soon, where your parents are invited.
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Wait, so if I CLEP the class, would I be able to get it in by EA or even RD?
No. You just wouldnât be rejected outright and theyâd look at the rest of your application.
An A in Algebra2 and Precalculus are expected for business at the colleges on your list (âcalculus readinessâ). Based on your transcript, with your highest math Algebra2 with a bad grade and then remedial math youâre not calculus-ready and struggle in math with apparent low ability in a pre-req class.
How can they square that with a 700+ on the Math SAT? Having a high score on the Precalculus CLEP exam would strengthen the weight of that SAT Math score and show your actual math level. Itâd allow them to look differently at your transcript.
IOW take that CLEP exam as soon as you can ace it, and before Winter break for sure (Iâd suggest November).
I know itâs tough to hear but you need to know the lay of the land so you can act accordingly.
You also need to talk with your parents if they havenât thought of the CC route, will be surprised or angry, etc.
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Hi, I think I wrote âget it inâ not âget in.â Sorry for the confusion - I meant would I be able to get the credit for the class/es in time for an admissions cycle?
Also - quick update: Rutgers is officially submitted as of ten seconds ago! NB - SAS Undecided/NW SAS Undecided.
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oh, also, I had an A- average in Alg 2, so not exactly a very poor grade, but I understand what you mean about the calc readiness.
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Ok, sorry, I read too fast - getting a good score on the Precalculus CLEP will demonstrate you are indeed as academically able and strong as what that SAT score implies - that sth went wrong at school but that youâre more than that transcript (sth which I assume your GC will also say). It will also show âcalculus-readyâ and thus help with being a business major. The credit is just the cherry on top 
Since you got Cs and Bs and typically a B is necessary to progress on the track I figured it was one of those Cs. An A- is excellent! BuuutâŠ
If you got an A- in Algebra2 it makes no sense that you werenât placed in Precalculus. Is that what your parents tried to fight?
How will that junior year math class be described? Is statistics the only class you could take after it?
Anyway 
CONGRATULATIONS on submitting the applications!
And now on to the next one 
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Since you got Cs and Bs and typically a B is necessary to progress on the track I figured it was one of those Cs. An A- is excellent! BuuutâŠ
If you got an A- in Algebra2 it makes no sense that you werenât placed in Precalculus. Is that what your parents tried to fight?
How will that junior year math class be described? Is statistics the only class you could take after it?
All good! For full context - that class was unbelievably easy for me, and as such, I turned in work early, had nothing to do all class, etc. For some reason, my teacher really resented that fact? I can only assume he wanted me to work harder despite my 95+% average most semesters. He had a record of doing this to students, but since he won a Teacher of the Year a few years prior, allowing him some freedom from supervision, the mathematics dept. just looked me and my family off, especially because he intentionally waited until the day before schedules finalized to input it. My counselor helped me formulate an explanation in the âadditional informationâ section on the common app
I donât exactly know how the class would be described, but it was a mix of algebra, geometry, and precalc. It is generally assigned as the class for non-college-seeking students, or for poor performers. The grade required to be moved into that class is a C-.
And now on to the next one
Speaking of, just submitted Rowan!
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Yeah, that class title sounds exactly like what it was and thatâs not good. Register for the Precalculus CLEP ASAP.
The explanation should be in your GCâs report not yours otherwise itâll look fishy/wonât be taken seriously. See if your GC will explain this. If you and your GC both write similar things it will help but it wonât change the fact you havenât taken precalculus and arenât calculus-ready.
(btw, I believe you, this happens often enough with 2E kids, especially if you are/were a smartaleck.)
Congrats on Rowan.
Whatâs next?
You really should submit that SRAR for PSU if you havenât yet since, as I said, it often takes a while to be processed and you want it processed by Nov1.
Consider entering the CC Calc class as a Spring class on your schedule after checking itâs feasible for you (practically etc ). I assume here that youâll do ok on the CLEP Precalculus class after studying.
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I have a meeting with my academic counselor today to work on the CLEP credit eligibility and registering for a CC class. Iâll see what can be done about the GC report.
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Hey, just wanted to update. I applied to 13 colleges. Hereâs the list. The red-out schools were not Nov. 1 deadlines. I opted to ED to TCNJ, as they have a shockingly high ED acceptance rate, and I very much like the school(have visited, enjoyed campus). What does everyone think? It feels good to have the weight off my shoulders.
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